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Amtraker
11-14-2007, 05:28 PM
It's amazing what can be just under your feet for decades.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311724,00.html

cpw
11-14-2007, 07:03 PM
Hopefully it can be restored

gun_lover
11-14-2007, 07:09 PM
That is a true classic. I echo cpw's sentiment and surely hope that it can be restored to its former glory...

Mondragon
11-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Once its in seawater...its flying days are over!

Poot
11-15-2007, 01:07 AM
Awesome.

Clyde
11-15-2007, 08:10 AM
That one may come out of the sand - but it won't ever be more than cosmetically restorable. That said - I hope they can recover it.

wandering_ronin
11-15-2007, 08:43 AM
Even cosmetically restored is a plus, since P38's are so rare. My wife is so lucky that I don't have access to the WW2 battlefields...I would be relic hunting all the time!

BBQ SAM
11-15-2007, 08:56 AM
A Quote from the article;

As the disabled P-38 could not be flown out, "American officers had the guns removed, and the records say the aircraft was salvaged, but it wasn't," Gillespie said. "It was gradually covered with sand, and there it sat for 65 years. With censorship in force and British beaches closed to the public during the war, nobody knew it was there."
End Quote.

Think the salvage crew might have actually buried it ? To time consuming and troublesom to salvage,So bury it to hide the technology ?

Just a thought.

cpw
11-15-2007, 03:32 PM
That would be a logical step. Plus it would reduce the chance of a German agent finding it.

mkgr22
11-15-2007, 06:02 PM
I heard a radio report today that the pilot of this P38 was killed in combat over Tunisia a year later.
His great-nephew who was named after him was contacted about the emergence of the plane, and hopes to see it restored some day.

Clyde
11-15-2007, 06:46 PM
Saw the same report in print media. Works for me - hope they can pull it out. Recognizing it is a somewhat difficult job, what with being in water and fragile after the salt water corrosion over the past half century plus.

TFoley
11-16-2007, 05:58 PM
Think the salvage crew might have actually buried it ? To time consuming and troublesom to salvage,So bury it to hide the technology ? Just a thought.

Think again, if you please. Not likely, as the P38 was also flown by the RAF.

Please remember that we are not savages here with bones through our noses, gazing in awe at the white man's silver birds. I seem to recall that two years before this plane crashed, we had fought the Battle of Britain with real flying aeroplanes that had gun-type things in them to shoot at them naughty nazis.

So I think it's fair to say that the principles of flight were quite well known to us simple and backward loin-cloth-wearing and clod-hopping natives of these islands.

And the technology for building aircraft machine guns was not beyond us here, peasant thickoes thought we may have been by comparison with the mighty technology of the US.
In fact, it was safety policy to remove all armament from an irrecoverable aircraft.

tac

wjneal
11-16-2007, 07:17 PM
I think he meant from the Evil Nazi horde not from the British or even the English, we were on the same side after all.

Bloody Poms, take everything personally!

:^)

Edit, I am pulling your leg a little bit since you sent my Great Grandparents to Australia, the other side went to New Zealand willingly I think.

Clyde
11-16-2007, 08:06 PM
Don't think that there were many transportees sent to New Zealand, Wylie. More to Oz and Van Diemen's Land (a/k/a Tasmania). And a bit earlier, Georgia. I'm not sure I don't have people who were sent to Georgia (rather than went to Georgia voluntarily) in my family tree.

caerlonie
11-20-2007, 11:55 PM
Don't think that there were many transportees sent to New Zealand, Wylie. More to Oz and Van Diemen's Land (a/k/a Tasmania). And a bit earlier, Georgia. I'm not sure I don't have people who were sent to Georgia (rather than went to Georgia voluntarily) in my family tree.
No convicts were sent to New Zealand,our early immigrants came here of their own free will,to my knowledge Australia was the only penal colony in this part of the world and the fact is most Aussies do not have any convict blood these days either.Not that this stops us bringing the matter up from time to time.

TFoley
11-21-2007, 05:20 AM
Edit, I am pulling your leg a little bit since you sent my Great Grandparents to Australia, the other side went to New Zealand willingly I think.

Not me Sir, I am a son of Irish and Anglo-French immigrants.

When your sundry ancestors were fighting Te Wheke and his boys in NZ and opening up the GAFA in Oz, my dad's people were dying of starvation in Ireland, and my mother's people were recovering from 700 years of relgious persecution in Burgundy.

tac

ssmandavid
11-21-2007, 10:18 AM
junk, its been sitting in salt water sand for 60+ years.
the only thing its good for is the WOW factor of a display.

Dave