: Rusted Winchester
Mark Harlin Chaney
01-03-2011, 07:43 PM
I just bought a 1972 Winchester lever action model 94, 30-30. The barrel bluing is in
pretty good shape just a few small spots of surface rust. The receiver has a nice
brown pantina where it was carried on the underside, but the receiver flats are
speckled with light surface rust that is deep enough that the blue will be gone when I .
remove the rust. Do Ya'll know of anyway to create a brown pantina in the bright
spots after I remove the rust freckles? I figure with continued use and handling the
rest of the receiver will have an overall brown pantina, which is fine by me. The wood
is great, with minor handling and marks of use, no cracks in the butt or forearm it
has a dark finish with lighter tiger striping. The inside of the barrel has only one
apparent spot of surface rust, that I don't believe will affect accuracy at all.
Thanks in advance for any help!
01-03-2011, 08:54 PM
You can buy cold bluing,or browning solutions for touch up.Birchwood Casey is one name.Put a drop of oil on each spot,and lightly scrape the spot with a mouth of a brass cartridge case.It will level the rust with out hurting the remaining blue.
01-09-2011, 07:30 PM
1970's vintage winchester 94 rifles are famous for having a receiver that does not take bluing well. Winchester used some fancy tricks to blue it, and it does'nt hold up as well as the bluing on the rest of the rifle.
Unless you are willing to draw file the flats and reblue the rifle, the pits will always be slightly noticeable. If you remove the rust, and just oil the rifle and carry it by hand, the pits will eventually take the color of the rest of the rifle's reciever.
01-12-2011, 09:57 PM
I have heard that post 64 receivers well up into the 70's were not blued but plated as the finish seems to fall off in chunks. Fortunately Winchester started to get their act together then after the bean counters nearly ruined a great gunmaker's reputation.
01-30-2011, 08:07 PM
I must be one of the lucky ones, my 1964 Model 94 still has excellent blue on the receiver.
02-03-2011, 01:01 AM
I have used Flitz in the past to remove rust with success. You could always have the weapon reblued, or even have it parkerized. Brownells and Midway USA both have finishes you can use on the rifle. It's not a collectors item so do what you want to it.
02-05-2011, 08:56 AM
From 1964 to 1982, when USRAC took over and returned the 94s to a forged receiver, they were cast from graphitic steel that does not take blue. If polished and hot blued it is reported to come out purple. Early cast receivers were plated in black chrome, which didn't look too good. Later ones were plated in pure iron, then hot blued, and Winchester heavily advertised the beautiful blue this produced.
But then almost all the receivers began to corrode and the plating flaked off, starting as freckles of rust, and spreading. You wont get a normal patina but a corroded messy and rough surface.
The best solution is probably to take all the plating off and use a coating like Duracoat. Bead blasting used to remove the plating will provide a good basis for the Duracoat and I'd advise you to do the barrel too while you're at it. Cold blue, hot blue, nothing else seems to work and I could find no information on parkerizing it.
02-05-2011, 11:31 PM
Thanks, that's the best explanation of the crappy receivers on post 64 rifles that I have seen.
According to info. I have in my notes, sorry I can't remember the exact source, Winchester 94 receivers between serial numbers 2,770,000 and 5,024,957 were machined from a graphitic steel casting. Serial numbers 3,185,692 to 3,806,499 were black chrome plated and 3,806,500 to 5,024,957 were iron plated. They can be hot blued with some methods, but I think the plating must be ground off first.
02-06-2011, 02:07 PM
soak medal wrapped in kerosene rags in hot sun......then clean as usually done. this will stop the rust as is.
then use it as normal and repeat the process over the years and it will have the look of a used not abused gun.....
that is if you can live with non rust filled pits.
but from experience the more you fool with the 94 the worse it looks jack legged.