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kriggevaer
09-22-2007, 07:44 AM
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Mauser22
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 4:48:54 PM
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This is the sixth in a series of posts on the Husqvarna .22 Rifles.



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From the 1946 Husqvarna Catalog
By 1946 all barrels on all models were round. The Model 165 succeeded the Model 65. While still a very nice “upscale” version of the Models 155 and 255 it does not use the more complicated and longer action of the Model 65. The basic receiver, bolt, trigger, and safety mechanism are identical (except for the external diameter of the receiver) to the Models 155 and 255.

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Three examples of Model 165, Top SN 18424, Middle SN 20069, Bottom SN 22145 Note only the top example has the walnut stock. The bottom two are both of artic beech.

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A comparison of the Model 65 and 165. Highlighting the differences: Receiver and buttstock of the Model 165 are shorter. The trigger on the Model 165 is the standard trigger (identical to the Models 55, 155, and 255). The bolt on the Model 165 is also standard (with integrated extractor – see photo in the Model 65 Post) The barrel on the Model 165 is round vs. octagon on the Model 65.

Stocks on early Model 165’s are highly figured walnut and are checkered at the pistol grip and forend. Later Model 165’s may have beech stocks which are also checkered at both the pistol grip and forend. As on the Model 65 the Model 165 uses the plastic HVA logo buttplate typical of the centerfire rifles made by the firm. Also the trigger guard remains a shotgun type, but as the trigger used is the same as the Models 155 and 255 that is the only purpose it serves. The round barrel is tapered towards the muzzle ending at a diameter of .730 inches vs. .652 inches on the round barrel version of the Model 255. The barrel is also longer at 24 and 3/16th inches vs. 23 and 7/16th inches on the Models 155 and 255. As in the case of the Model 65, the bolt handle is extended and bent downwards. The length of pull is shorter than the Model 65 duplicating that of the Model 255. Naturally the gun is much heavier than the Models 155 or 255. It appears certain blocks of serial numbers were set aside for the Models 65, 165, and 365. These guns will generally have much lower serial numbers than the other Models made during the same time frame. Again, it appears a special range with the block was set aside for the target guns. This is evidenced by when the Models 65, 165 and 365 first appear in the catalogs and other features such as markings, barrel type and stock wood. The Model 165 was introduced in the 1946 Catalog and was discontinued by 1949. It was replaced by the Model 365 which I will discuss in the next post.

Good Collecting !!!!!!!!!

gregdownunder
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Posted - 01/29/2007 : 02:21:49 AM
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I have two model 165's.
One is as you describe, 24 1/4" barrel with a muzzle diameter of 3/4 of an inch,walnut stock, serial number 17067.
The other however has a much slimmer 23 1/2" inch barrel ending in a diameter of 5/8", beech stock,and serial number 26497.
Interestingly, the beech stock appears made for a heavy barreled receiver and will interchange with the walnut one, so has quite a gap when fitted with the slimmer barrel.
Perhaps the latter is not a model 165 after all?


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Edited by - gregdownunder on 01/29/2007 02:31:44 AM


Mauser22
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Posted - 01/29/2007 : 09:13:42 AM
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If it has a turned down bolt and the serial number matches it likely is either a Model 365 that had the stock swapped, or it may be a transitional gun using up stocks made for the heavy barrel. Most likely is stock replacement.

I have a late gun that has an uncheckered stock, but all other features are Model 365 (turned down bolt, shotgun triggerguard).


gregdownunder
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Posted - 01/30/2007 : 01:23:21 AM
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Yes it has the turned down matching bolt ,but does the M365 not have the heavy barrel as well?
It may well have had the stock swapped ,although I cannot see any reason anyone would do this.
It is exactly the same in all other respects aside from the shorter slimmer barrel and consequently narrower forward part of the receiver .

I have saved all these posts to disc,many thanks.


Mauser22
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Posted - 01/30/2007 : 08:40:25 AM
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Model 365 uses the standard lightweight barrel as on the Model 255A. Also is devoid of checkering at forend only checkered at the pistol grip. Yours may be a transitional gun using up left over stocks at the Model change over. I think it unlikely Husqvarna would do this, that is why I suspect the stock change.
Bout no way to tell for sure. Importers recieve these in bulk packs and often stocks are broken. Another gun may be rusty, tapped or missing parts etc. Possible they combined two guns to make one. No way to know for sure.

quinrogers
12-28-2009, 05:23 PM
I just acquired a model 165 and it has the exact serial number listed above 18424, just curious who owns or owned that one?

Thanks,
Quin

sbhva
12-29-2009, 12:32 PM
Mauser22 did most of his research at Simpson Ltd so I would assume they were the importer of the gun from Sweden.

Spedini
10-05-2012, 01:54 PM
Hi Quin

My model 165 has serialnumber 18824.According to Husqvarna museum it was made in 1946.

Spedini
10-05-2012, 02:01 PM
It`s in near new condition and very pleasent to shoot.Superb accuracy with subsonic ammo.

Kind regards
Peter in Sweden592685592686