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  1. #1
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    Default BRNO Model 1 scoped and range tested

    Finally played hooky today and took the Mod 1 to the range. I am a complete newbe insofar as scoped rifles are concerned, so today was my very first attempt to sight-in, etc. This is a really nice little rifle. I used Warne mounts (functional, not vintage) and a cheap rimfire scope. I started with a laser bore sight and then took about 5 rounds to get the bore and scope thinking along the same lines. All these years I've been missing lots of fun...dang. The sight-in target has a trail to the center and then I went to the s-n-c target pictured below.



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    Default Info on scoping Brno No.1 needed.

    Hi!
    I'll have Brno No.1 in about 10 days.
    And I want to have scope on it. What I've heard, it's rails on Brno wider, then on American rifles.
    I need info, how exactly to scope rifle. Which mount or rings I need? Where can I get them?
    Any info would be helpful..
    Thanks to all in advance,
    Yefim.
    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Default

    Should be 16mm dovetail, not so easy to find cheap.

    Chris
    Collector's Creed:

    This is my rifle.
    I have many like it, and they are all MINE.
    My rifles are my life. Without my rifles I am useless.
    I must buy any cheap Milsurp, before Bubba does.
    I will learn all about restoration and preservation of guns.
    I must clean my rifles and shoot them often.

    So be it, until all old military rifles have found a loving home.

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    Default

    this are the original CZ 16 mm rings, bought them in Australia many yrs ago-The best-



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    Default thats cruel Raul

    You have showed them to us cheapskates twice!
    comrade lavrik
    brownells charges $32.00 for the Warnes--utilitarian but not classic looking-- shown on the top posting (dealer price if they have a copy of your C&R)
    gil

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    Default 56

    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Default send a copy of your C&R liscence if you have one

    you get dealers price then
    gil

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    Default C&R.

    Quote Originally Posted by gil View Post
    you get dealers price then
    gil
    ##############
    Yes, I have C&R.
    But they do not sale firearms.. What FFL to them for?
    Should I call 1-800-221-9035 and ask address(where to send my C&R)?
    Or how it works?
    Thank You,
    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Default mail or fax them a c&r

    they will give you a dealers discount and send you a catalouge. It will cost perhaps $35.00 for the sight rings then. Several parts and reloading companies give you dealers
    discount for having a c&R liscence. grafs and sons, midway, brownells and others I am sure.
    gil

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    Default Brno 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeisir View Post
    Finally played hooky today and took the Mod 1 to the range. I am a complete newbe insofar as scoped rifles are concerned, so today was my very first attempt to sight-in, etc. This is a really nice little rifle. I used Warne mounts (functional, not vintage) and a cheap rimfire scope. I started with a laser bore sight and then took about 5 rounds to get the bore and scope thinking along the same lines. All these years I've been missing lots of fun...dang. The sight-in target has a trail to the center and then I went to the s-n-c target pictured below.


    __________________________________________________ ____________________________

    Hi That is a bit of interesting woodwork where the magazine goes.
    Does the rifle have single shot ramp fitted and what year is your rifle dated.
    Also what type of ammunition did you use.
    coop
    Last edited by coop; 05-21-2009 at 05:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    __________________________________________________ ____________________________

    Hi That is a bit of interesting woodwork where the magazine goes.
    Does the rifle have single shot ramp fitted and what year is your rifle dated.
    Also what type of ammunition did you use.
    coop
    Somewhere (can't find it at the moment) on the web there is an explanation of why/when some Mod 1's underwent arsenal conversion from 5 round capacity to single shot. This one obviously is one of those and has a ramp inserted where the magazine was. I will post a close-up picture this weekend of that conversion. The stock plug other than showing the lines is nicely done and another feature of the conversions was a replaced utilitarian buttplate. The ammunition for the picture above was Federal bulk, which in my experience has been reliable and consistent. -a.

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    Default C&R -- Brownells.

    Quote Originally Posted by gil View Post
    you get dealers price then
    gil
    #####################
    I've sent them my C&R. Have E-Mail confirmation("I received your C & R license and have it on file for you. Please allow 18 days for your catalog"): they've received it.
    Now: how I can get Dealer's discount? Where prices are?
    And they have:
    1. 16mm Brno/CZ-Base Permanent Rings, 1"/Medium.
    2. 16mm Brno/CZ-Base Permanent Rings, 1"/High.
    Do I need medium or high?
    Last edited by lavric; 06-02-2009 at 09:37 PM. Reason: another Q added.
    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Default comrade lavric

    You are asking me to reveal the secret handshake that is shown to members of the "cell" only. : < )
    When you get your cataloge it will include a sheet of paper that will explain the dealers price code used in it. It will list an item # and the dealer price will be listed after the item #.
    You can order before the cataloge gets there, just tell them your liscence is on order.
    send a c&r to Grafs and sons and midway also, as they offer dealer pricing to C&R holders.
    gil

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    Default Scope rings

    Quote Originally Posted by lavric View Post
    #####################
    I've sent them my C&R. Have E-Mail confirmation("I received your C & R license and have it on file for you. Please allow 18 days for your catalog"): they've received it.
    Now: how I can get Dealer's discount? Where prices are?
    And they have:
    1. 16mm Brno/CZ-Base Permanent Rings, 1"/Medium.
    2. 16mm Brno/CZ-Base Permanent Rings, 1"/High.
    Do I need medium or high?
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________

    Hi What make and size of scope are you fitting to your rifle.
    coop

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    Default Item Number: BSN 714124.

    Quote Originally Posted by coop View Post
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________

    Hi What make and size of scope are you fitting to your rifle.
    coop
    #####################
    I have "Banner® Dusk & Dawn®" 4-12 x 40mm .
    http://www.shopbushnell.com/detail/BSN+714124

    on my Toz-8M.
    4-12 x 40mm 71-4124
    Model Finish Power / Obj Lens (mm) Recticle Field of View
    (ft@100 ft. / m@100 m) Weight (oz. / g)
    71-4124 Matte 4-12 x 40 Multi-X® 29/9.7@4x
    11/3.7@12x 15 / 425
    Length (in / mm) Eye Relief (in / mm) Exit Pupil (mm) Click Value in@100 yds / mm@100m Adj Range
    in@100yds/
    mm@100m Mounting Lenght
    (in / mm)
    12 / 300 3.3 / 83 10@4x
    3.3@12x .25 /7 60 / 1.7 5.5 / 140
    ##################
    So, medium or hight ???
    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Default Scope rings

    Hi In the photo showing the three brnos, the top one has a Leupold 4x12x40.
    The mounts i used where 1in Medium CZ 14mm LYNK by B-Square.
    On your model 1 you have to remove the rear sight to mount the scope, use a brass punch, i am not sure if the high mounts will clear the rear sight.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails brno.jpg  

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    Default Brno#1 with compact scope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeisir View Post
    Finally played hooky today and took the Mod 1 to the range. I am a complete newbe insofar as scoped rifles are concerned, so today was my very first attempt to sight-in, etc. This is a really nice little rifle. I used Warne mounts (functional, not vintage) and a cheap rimfire scope. I started with a laser bore sight and then took about 5 rounds to get the bore and scope thinking along the same lines. All these years I've been missing lots of fun...dang. The sight-in target has a trail to the center and then I went to the s-n-c target pictured below.


    ##########################################
    Is it comfortable for You to have scope that close to eye?
    I could not fit same size scope on rifle. Rear sight.. Do not want remove it.
    I've placed compact scope. It's .22 Mag Mini 4x28 Scope.
    Scope looks on rifle not perfect, but it's only way to fit it without removing rear sight...
    Last edited by lavric; 06-11-2009 at 11:22 AM. Reason: Pictures added.
    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lavric View Post
    ##########################################
    Is it comfortable for You to have scope that close to eye?
    I could not fit same size scope on rifle. Rear sight.. Do not want remove it.
    I've placed compact scope. It's .22 Mag Mini 4x28 Scope.
    Scope looks on rifle not perfect, but it's only way to fit it without removing rear sight...
    Hello Lavric,

    The scope I use is the only one I have. The eye relief is ok and not uncomfortable...of course the recoil doesn't require much. ;-)

    If I can find an old rimfire straight tube scope (that won't interfere with rear sight) I will definitely replace the current scope. Your shortie looks nice on your rifle.

    -a.

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    Default Brno#1 with scope.

    Today. Could be better...
    1."Кто не с нами,-тот против нас.
    Если враг не сдается,- его уничтожают"- Максим Горький.
    2."..Мы будем преследовать террористов везде. В аэропорту — в аэропорту. Значит, Вы уж меня извините, в туалете поймаем, мы и в сортире их замочим, в конце концов. Всё, вопрос закрыт окончательно."- В. Путин.
    3."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    - Thomas Jefferson.

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