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  1. #271
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    The NP could be part of the BNP marking for British nitro proof, I''ve no idea about the americ marking unless its america?

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    I have a no 2 mk1 serial # u-2561 stamped on barrell,revolver and trigger guard. I have another number stamped on
    revolver part j497. The barrell has cal 38 42 for the year. I don't see any stars * or **. This gun is a double action
    spurless hammer. Can u help me with exact make and model. Theres no place indicating the enfield logo

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    Just picked one up at a local gun show. The serial number on the barrel and frame is V1707. The serial number is marked just forward of the pivot pin on the barrel and just below the pivot pin on the frame forward of the trigger guard. The top of the barrel is marked Cal 38 and is a bit worn, but in the direction of the cylinder it appears to be a 42. The 4 is clear, but the bottom of the 2 is not visible, but looks more like a 2 than a 3. The cylinder is marked CG1 and has a serial number of Z4513. It has the sprless hammer and does not seem to have the hammer safety. On the right side of the frame there is the DE followed by 1**. The grip dark walnut and does not have the medalion, nor is it cut for one. The backstrap is serrated. Overall, seems in great condition, bore is clean and shiny, cylinder locks up pretty tight. Will probably shoot it this weekend with some remington 38 S&W, found one box at the show.

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    Oh, forgot, anyone shoot the Magtech ammo, ammunitiontogo.com has it available.

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    Default First Enfield in 30 years for me!

    Just picked up my first Enfield No2Mk1* serial number Z 5702. All matching no import markings. Any idea where to find the correct lanyard? Thanks, Bob B.
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    I have X 569*..a No 2 Mk1 ** in excellent condition..complete except for the brass disc..38 43 on the barrell along with usual proofs.beautiful bluing job..no import marks

    I have cast and loaded 18 of the original 38-200 loads, now it won't stop raining...dang hurricane

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    I have another Albion to report. It's a 1943 mk1**. Barrel is dated 1942 and serial number is D3559. It's matching and nearly new. What's the highest sn Albion observed?
    Looking for a nice, matching Budapest M95M that needs a good home.

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    Thats the highest Albion I have ever seen. Highest I recorded is D3366. charlie

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    Just joined and wanted to add my 1940 #2 MK1* serial #K9000 to the list.
    RPB

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    Here you go one more Enfield for you.

    42
    R 5xxxx
    DI*
    Non FTR
    Wood grips
    Last edited by jbird1371; 07-19-2010 at 06:48 PM.
    J.

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    Here is another first year number for you. Note the rear sight...just like the earliest Webley MK IVs. Its the 2nd first year Enfield I've seen with this sight.

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    Default 1936 Enfield

    I see I have apparently never weighed in on this thread, so might as well tell you about the RCAF-marked 1936 Enfield No 2 Mk 1 currently have in my collection, as well as the 1931-dated one I traded off for it. (I traded because the 1936 revolver was a much better fit in my collection of Canadian military handguns than the earlier example.)

    1936 Enfield No. 2 Mk I, Serial Number E1301, Mk I chequered walnut side stocks (Mark Stamps' "Type A")

    1931 Enfield No. 2 Mk I, Serial Number A4796, Mk I reeded walnut side stocks (Mark Stamps' "Type B")
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    I've weighed in with my serials earlier in this thread, but at this point, I'm curious about the number of Albions that were produced.
    Based on the recorded D series numbers, I would ASSUME that at least 40M-ish were made, if all serials were utilized.

    Do the REPORTED numbers of Albions versus Enfields jibe with the same ratio of Enfields and Albions MANUFACTURED ?

    I would expect statistically this would be the case (roughly).

    But if the percentages would be significantly off, it could indicate that maybe all the Albion serials weren't used, (or didn't pass inspection, or were recorded as destroyed in a warehouse bombing, etc.) as has been theorized in the past.

    Just curious.
    Regards, Ned

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    Ned:

    It is not clear from your post whether you are familiar with the Albion production figures given by Stamps and Skennerton in their ".380 Enfield No. 2 Revolver" but in case you aren't, they state: "the comprehensive wartime records indicate a figure of 42,516 for the ongoing contract".

    They also mention that authors Christie and Cairns in a January 1985 article in "Guns Review" (entitled "The Albion Enfield No. 2 MkI*") put total production by Albion at only 21,422 revolvers. They do also note, however, that in the early part of 1943 the Albion contract was passed over to Coventry Tool & Gauge Co., and that this may explain the difference in the two figures. (As I have never heard of a "Coventry" marked Enfield revolver, one must assume that their production continued to be marked with the Albion name .... ?)
    Grant Rombough
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    ("Rattlesnake Jack Robson", Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, 1885)
    WEBSITE: "RATTLESNAKE JACK'S"
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    My Enfield No 2 Mk 1 is S8463, al numbers match. It is stamped DT*. The date is 42. It has wooden grips. A mark on the cylinder reads EBI. I don't know what that is. I am having trouble transfering pics to my computer. If I can fix that I'll include pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Here is another first year number for you. Note the rear sight...just like the earliest Webley MK IVs. Its the 2nd first year Enfield I've seen with this sight.

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    1930 was the second year of production, 1929 being the first. It also seams that there were alot more Enfields issued with the driftable sight as stated in the No2 book as I have 3, 1 from 1929 and 2 from 1930.

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    Just got another one today.

    Enfield #2 Mk1**
    Dated 43 on BBL
    S/N Y42XX
    Plastic Grips w/stock disk. Disk is brass but looks like it is parked over.
    Hope it helps.
    J.

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    Got my first Enfield (first firearm, for that matter) two hours ago:

    Enfield No2 MkI**
    # ZI74xx
    1944
    Bakelite grips w/ steel disc
    bobbed spur (which I'm looking to replace with a spurred hammer)

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    Actually, Thundermug, MkI** No. 2 Enfield revolvers were produced only with the "bobbed hammer", and that is accordingly the "correct" configuration for your revolver. In fact, MkI** revolvers lack the necessary sear notch/full-cock bent to enable them to be thumb-cocked and fired in "single action mode", anyway .....
    Grant Rombough
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    So, even if I got a spurred Enfield hammer, I couldn't swap it for the bobbed hammer?

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    That is my understanding .....
    Grant Rombough
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    WEBSITE: "RATTLESNAKE JACK'S"
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    I think you can fit the spured hammer as that has the sear machined as part of it, what you wont be able to do is fit the safety stop as the 1** body has no machining for it.

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    Back when it was still possible to get an extra spur hammer, I fitted one to my first Enfield NO 2 MK I**. It was an accurate combination and my favorite plinking revolver. However, switching hammers may cause timing problems in the lockwork which is often alot more bother than most people are ready to deal with. Skennerton mentioned this in his book. Eventually I restored my NO 2 MK I** to original configuration and, or course, I had to re-time the lockwork all over again.

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    Thanks for the input. When and if I find a spurred hammer, I will try to find a gunsmith who knows his stuff. The timing issue may be a deal-breaker. If the timing cannot be restored after the hammer swap, then there is no point in going ahead with it. If it can be restored, full steam ahead. I will have to get Skennerton's book, too.

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    The #2 MK1** that I had shot surprisingly well double action, with practice.

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    I didn't realize that a MkI* or MkI** would actually operate in single-action mode with a spurred hammer installed!

    Strictly from a historical/collecting point of view (as opposed to shooting) the revolver properly should have a spurless hammer, of course ......

    MkI revolvers, in the original spurred-hammer configuration, do come available from time to time. That would be the ideal way to go, although they definitely do tend to cost more ......
    Grant Rombough
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    ("Rattlesnake Jack Robson", Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, 1885)
    WEBSITE: "RATTLESNAKE JACK'S"
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    When I bought it, I didn't know enough about guns to notice the bobbed spur. Had I noticed it, I wouldn't have bought it. Nor did I notice that the firing pin is broken. Yeah, just noticed it.

    So, I called the shop owner. He was very professional about it and offered to find the parts and fix it for free. Even offered to swap out the hammer, if he can find the part. I highly recommend Steele's Gun Shop (and museum), if ever you are near Lewes, Delaware.

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    The little Enfield is my favourite revolver, I'm lucky as I found No.177 dated 1929 and I also have 1930 dated 4??, cant remember the last digits. I also have a 1931 dated example with a 'A' prefix serial. Will put some pics up if anyone is intrested.

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    Very early No. 2 revolvers, brit plumber! I, for one, would like to see photos.

    This is the only one I currently have in my collection of Canadian-issue military handguns - a 1936-dated MkI with Royal Canadian Air Force markings .....



    As mentioned in an earlier posting, I previously had a 1931-dated example, but I traded it for this one which is a much better fit for the theme of my collection .....
    Last edited by GrantRCanada; 08-28-2010 at 06:52 PM.
    Grant Rombough
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    ("Rattlesnake Jack Robson", Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, 1885)
    WEBSITE: "RATTLESNAKE JACK'S"
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    I'm having issues trying to get good pics of my Revolvers, heres a photo of 6 Enfields and 1 Webley Mk4



    And a close up of the 1929 No2 Mk. (I think some one missed the 1 off the end)



    I'll try for some better shots

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    My Enfields
    No2 MkI 1931 s/n. 5703
    No2 MkI 1936 s/n. E1732
    No2 MkI 1938 s/n. F1365
    No2 MkI 1938 s/n. F4676 (RAF)
    No2 MkI* 1940 s/n. H8427
    No2 MkI* 1942 s/n. R669
    No2 MkI* 1942 s/n. S56
    No2 MkI** 1943 s/n. C5170 (Albion)
    regards
    Norman

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    I have added a couple of revolvers to my collection in the past few months. Here is an updated and more detailed list.

    Enfields:
    Serial # 1303, 1930, No. 2 Mk I, adjustable rear sight.
    Serial # B8855, 1933, No. 2 Mk I, Iraqi ownership mark.
    Serial # C4466, 1934, No.2 Mk I, converted to Mk I*.
    Serial # D4203, 1934, No. 2 Mk I.
    Serial # E4760, 1937, No. 2 Mk I, RAF marked.
    Serial # G4620, 1939, No. 2 Mk I*.
    Serial # U1473, 1942, No. 2 Mk I**.
    Serial # ZG5067, 1944, No. 2 Mk I**, converted by Webley to a starters pistol.

    Albions:
    Serial # A4457, 1942, No. 2 Mk I*.
    Serial # B8290, 1943, No. 2 Mk I**, smooth back strap.

    Thank you for all the research. I look forward to hearing about any more findings.

    Ed

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    Default 1944 Endfield No 2 Mk1*

    I just receive an Endfield from my wife's grandfather. The serial number is ZG4802 it has the D with the E in it and to the right of it a roman I then only one star. Most of what have been reading said that should be two stars. My question is did Endfield make the mk I* in 44?

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    Default my endfield

    Hello!
    I recently Buy this Endfield Revolver. I am from Acapulco México.

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    hello,,i just picked up a non import at a local gunshow serial number is P3413 and has a 41 barrel date ,,not the prettiest rose in the bunch but for 25 bucks what can ya expect!lol..lol..
    crazy
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    A friend dropped by with a gun for me to identify for him and it is a No. 2 Mk 1. I ran across this thread so I thought I'd add the info from this gun.

    All matching serial numbers on barrel, frame, and cylinder: P 52XX

    On frame in front of right side grip,
    DI*
    FTR 52(just above DI*)
    an arrow pointing up(right above R in FTR)
    There appears to be a sigma(lowercase)( circle with backwards c on top) stamped in beneath the 5 in 52
    What appears to be lowercame letters printed(light gray discoloration on parkerizing) usn rising up to the right with what remains of the u on bottom and a clear s and n above

    On top of the barrel(muzzle to cylinder),
    CAL. 38(lengthwise the barrel))
    41 (across the barrel)
    an arrow pointing towards the muzzle(just below the 41)
    a small 5 at the base of the shaft of the arrow
    below the 5 the number 71 upsidedown
    the letter R
    then lengthwise on the barrel and nearest the cylinder is XL

    On the right side of the frame in front of the cylinder,
    767(with either " or a superscript M. The v between the legs of the M is faint but almost too symetrical to be an accidental blemish)
    3.5
    TONS
    7 (below TONS)
    what looks to be NP turned clockwise 90 degrees just in front of the angled bracket( bracket has a stamped E in the center)
    38' (below the 7)

    On the cylinder,
    ESC.321


    grips reeded without metal disc
    bottom of right-side grip stamped with what looks like an arrow with small o's next to the shaft
    Back of handgrip frame has about 2 and 1/4 inches of horizontally grooves through the center area.
    Last edited by cardshoot; 12-10-2010 at 02:59 PM. Reason: to correct marrk to single quotation mark after 38 on frame

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    o^0 on wood or metal components;
    Percentage stamp where 10% of stores have been examined
    The marking on the cylinder is the steel batch number
    41, when it was made

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    I have a 1938 Enfield No 2 Mk 1 sn F29xx.

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    And of course there is the "Holy Grail" one marked HAC (Howard Auto Cultivators)

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    Four more Enfields----No.2 Mk1 SN F2986. Arabic letters stamped over the 1938 beneath the Enfield crown. Parkerized. Type B grips
    No.2 Mk1 SN C8917 1934 side plate and barrel Parkerized. Type A grips
    No.2 Mk1* SN P7856 ED1*side plate. No barrel or side plate date. Type E grips. Black paint
    No.2 Mk1** SN U5705 2" barrel. Blued. Type E grips. E.B.1 on cylinder

    Hope you find these of interest. DonR
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    Default Enfield revolver serial numbers (and lanyard source)

    Mine are (all matching serial numbers):

    1936 No. 2 Mk I SA/DA #E3107
    1944 No. 2 Mk I** DAO #3564 (with regimental disc)

    Lanyard source: Northridge International Inc (eBay store) out of Calabasas, California. See eBay Item No. 310289340401 for example. They claim they are "used" (surplus) but they seem to be in "new" condition.

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    Just arrived,all matching

    1931 Enfield No. 2 Mk 1, S/N 9720

    It needs a lanyard ring & stud

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    I just picked up a No2 Mk1. On the right side of the frame you can barely see "D1**" and above the trigger is "gland", presumably for "England'. The cylinder is "W8038" as is the front of the trigger guard. The cylinder also has "E.B.1". The top of the barrel has some odd marks, also ">43" and "Cal.38". The left side of the barrel has 3 crowns and underneath them is what looks like 2 "BP"s and then an "NP". Anything else I should note?

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    Albion No2MkI* 1942 serial A1353

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