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    1943 No4 mk1*

    45L029X

    below that is "I 18"

    aluminum buttplate
    converted no1 mk3 magazine
    Flip up dial sight

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    1944 Long Branch No.4 Mk.1*, serial number 69L1251

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    1950 Long Branch C No4 Mk1*, MkIII sights, # 95L5323 matching but mag.
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    Here is another Long Branch serial number update. As you can see, having all the digits in the serial number make are a great help to narrowing the change over serial number on year changes. As noted, there is an overlap of serial numbers especially between 42-43 and 44-45. I have added percentages of the years production based on the serial number input.
    Of 378 in the data base, there are 7 No. 4 Mk1/3's, and one No 4 Mk1/2. I know there are more Mk1/2's out there, but don't have that data yet. I've included the differences between Skip Stratton's range data and what I've observed.

    1941 Mk 1 0L244
    1941 M k 1 1L4588

    1942 Mk1* 1L5979
    1942 Mk1* 19L7875

    1943 Mk1* 22L28XX
    1943 Mk1*57L4906

    1944 50L66xx (this looks to be an aberration, actual prefix change in the 57L range)
    1944 57L6082
    1944 83L842x

    1945 83L3414
    1945 91L9864

    1949 91L0353
    1949 91L51XX

    1950 91L0510
    1950 96L0012



    PRODUCTION
    ...............Stratton.....................COX... ........PRODUCTION#'S-COX
    41............ 0L-1L........................0L-1L.........10,000................................. ..... 1941.........26............ 0.07
    42.............1L-20L......................2L-19L.......180,000................................. ....1942........ 73............ 0.19
    43............ 21L-56L.....................22L-57L.....360,000................................... . 1943.........91............ 0.24
    44.............58L-84L.................... 57L-83L.....260,000................................... ..1944........ 72............ 0.19
    45............ 84L-90L.....................83L-90L.....79,000.................................... .. 1945.........32............ 0.08
    49.............91L..........................91L... ........ 33,300......................................1949.. .......14............ 0.04
    50............ 91L-95L...................91L-96L.......46,742.................................. .....1950.........70........... 0.19
    Totals 378...........1
    total production 969,042
    Last edited by limpetmine; 12-28-2009 at 09:37 PM. Reason: difficulty with editor
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    1943 long branch mk1* 44l8520

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    No4 Mk1* 1943 Serial # 37L04XX
    Brass butt plate, 300/600 aperture sight, no lightening grooves

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    #4 MK1 longbranch 1943 AA185XX







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    I a real Newbe here and if anyone would help tell me what I have, beside what info I already have, or info on this rifle. No.4MK1* Serial# 7L2227 Long Branch 1942,
    Serial numbers on Metal wrist,and right under that is the letters FTR & England, Serial number is also Stamped right behind the the trigger Guard on Stock, and 4 inches up from that, on the underside of the Stock, is the letter & number S 3 stamped into the stock, There was no rear site on it, It came with a walnut Cheek peice, Leather Sling, no scope, I had read that if it was a Used as a sniper Rifle it would have a T stamped on it, It does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S.Patriot View Post
    I a real Newbe here and if anyone would help tell me what I have, beside what info I already have, or info on this rifle. No.4MK1* Serial# 7L2227 Long Branch 1942,
    Serial numbers on Metal wrist,and right under that is the letters FTR & England, Serial number is also Stamped right behind the the trigger Guard on Stock, and 4 inches up from that, on the underside of the Stock, is the letter & number S 3 stamped into the stock, There was no rear site on it, It came with a walnut Cheek peice, Leather Sling, no scope, I had read that if it was a Used as a sniper Rifle it would have a T stamped on it, It does not.
    You have an early 1942 Long Branch. The sight should be a type 1 or type 2 flip sight. England was stamped on it when it was exported from GB in the 1950's or 1960's. The FTR is interesting. Picture would be nice. Usual location for FTR marks was on the left receiver wall, not the wrist. Cheek piece? Odd, I suspect a aftermarket addition. The LB sniper program was rolling in 1943. The "T" stamp was a later addition and wasn't commonly applied until late 43 and 44, IIRC. I've not heard of H & H converting any Long Branches, but anything is possible. Post some pics! thanks for posting.
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    Longbranch 1944 82L43xx can anyone tell me more about this ? Attachment 269382

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    Longbranch 1942 No 4 Mk1* 19L86xx

    i would like to know a little more about it like where it came from and what its worth if anybody can help, not too familiar with enfields haha.

    heres some pics of the various markings on it, the only ones i find interesting are the numbers and letters on the bolt handle that look hand stamped HB2820H7
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    Canada did make some Trials Shortened and Lightened rifles. Some were made like the No. 5 with the lightening cuts. Yours is probably a gunsmith special. It looks like it is well made. See the "Lee-Enfield" by Skennerton, page 307.

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    1941 #4 MK1 serial number OL16xx, bolt has old style cocking piece and hollow bolt knob

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    1950 93l3385
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    1944 60L49** looks to have walnut stock,potmetal butplate,and has a MK3 rear sight

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    N4 MK1* 1945 83L19XX Long Branch

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    1942 Long Branch SN 7L7035 with NZ marking and SN 2081. Both Sn's on action, bolt and magazine, LB SN on stock. Appears unissued and has no import marks.

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    i need help
    i've been trying to track down the information on my MK1
    but so far i've had no luck
    the serial number is 5c9829
    it has a flip iron sight
    and i should have a picture on here by tommarow for u to look at

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    Hello PFC. This thread is for Long Branch serial numbers. All serial numbers on Savage made No4s have a serial number format which includes a C in it, for Chicopee Falls, Mass. where the Savage plant was located. I suggest you move your question over to the main forum or the Savage sticky. I believe your rifle is a early made Savage. Regards, Rick.

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    thank you for the info

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    Just got this one today:
    1944 Long Branch SN:80L7228
    No FTR England Marked
    All matching including numbered stock. 2 groove barrel

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    1943 MK1* serial no AC4418 This is the number on the bolt I have not taken the stock off the barrel

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    1944 81l3983
    1943 56l7200

    1944 81L3983
    1943 56L7200

    For some strange reason the first numbers show a I, and I can't edit it to an L

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    Just arrived:
    1945 No. 4 Mk. I*, serial #89L9316
    1945 5 groove barrel.
    All Canadian: bolt, bolt head, barrel, magazine, trigger, sights, barrel band, etc. All marked: Click image for larger version. 

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    Steel buttplate.
    Small CAI import mark on barrell, Century states imported in 1991-1992 (based on serial number)


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    Last edited by finloq; 06-10-2010 at 07:19 PM.
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    1942 . 21L0xxx 4 mk 1*

    odd cartouche on stock and
    mark on receiver ring

    aluminum butt plate

    HAVE SINCE DISCOVERED
    MARKINGS ARE THAILAND
    PROPERTY MARKS
    Last edited by FIVESHOT; 05-25-2010 at 01:15 PM. Reason: new information

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    1943 No. 4 Mk.1* Long Branch 36L53xx.

    Incomplete. No bolt, mag, upper half of forestock. Brass butt plate w/ cleaning rod access. Rear Mk. 3 sight intact.
    Given to me by my Mother 45 years ago as a toy-$5.00 flea market buy.

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    I have a 1944 No4 Mk1* serial # 69L6528 , 5 groove , brass butplate. Purchased as 'un-issued' in as new condition in 1972 in Christchurch NZ.

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    ORIGINAL EXCEPT BBL LENGTH AND STOCK .. marked on side receiver:

    N 4 M 1 *
    LONG BRANCH
    1944

    SERIAL# 75L75XX
    Last edited by lutherieguy; 06-05-2010 at 11:11 PM.

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    1949 C No 4 MK1* 91L23_ _ CMK3 Sight Matching Nos ON Bolt And Mag.Metal Dark Blue Dark Walnut Stock.

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    No 4 Mk 1*
    LONG BRANCH
    1943

    50L41XX

    Notes: Mk3 site; barrel appears to have been shortened; stock modified; my first Lee-Enfield.

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    mine is a british .303 no.4 mk1 longbranch ssn.0L31xx

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    mine is a first 1941 issue ww2 all original w/ matching ssn on rifle and bolt, what do i have ?

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    i would like someone to e-mail me about my longbranch, it's a 1941 no.4 mk1 mathing ssn on rifle and bolt 0L31xx. it has a T01 scope mount,BNP below a crownTONSPER stamped on the left side of the barrel. and several strange oblong stamps on the right side . TELL ME WHAT THIS RIFLE IS !!! [email protected]

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    No4 Mk1* 1944 73L7032 Milled Adj Rear Sight, 5-groove Bbl, CAI Vermont-import
    WTB: Long Branch MkII Bayonet; No4 Rifle Valise; Cdn P-37 Kit; Canadian-proofed Inglis No2 Hi Power; 2" Mortar bits;

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    Limpetmine, In case you're still interested, here's my contribution.....I picked up a real beauty at an auction last weekend

    Serial number: 1943 27L40XX No. 4 Mark I* w/milled micrometer rear sight- matching numbers on metal, unnumbered magazine

    Blackish blue finish throughout, no parkerized parts

    All Longbranch made parts except for a UCF (Upper Canada Force) marked follower

    Steel buttplate with C/Broad arrow marked on trap door

    Buttstock with B over 32, C/Broad arrow, and "L" (Long) on top markings

    Unribbed upper handguard

    Stock marked M16 and F over 57 underneath between bands (I'm assuming postwar replacement?) No C/Broad arrow

    Thanks, Bodes
    Last edited by bodes; 08-11-2010 at 02:06 PM. Reason: added date

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    wink2

    1942 Long Branch No.4 MkI*

    Bolt, body and mag number 11L4376

    Purchased in 1960 for $10 - I've owned it for 50 years and it is still the most accurate of my rifles.

    No one to leave it to so its being buried with me

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    With an old girl like that as a legacy, I think that you will have many young (relative term) men here who would be very eager to adopt the noble surname of Harris and call you Daddy.
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    Yes still interested, just busy with work. Will try to get an update in the nextfew months. Literally hundreds of numbers to enter.
    Thanks for posting.



    Quote Originally Posted by bodes View Post
    Limpetmine, In case you're still interested, here's my contribution.....I picked up a real beauty at an auction last weekend

    Serial number: 1943 27L40XX No. 4 Mark I* w/milled micrometer rear sight- matching numbers on metal, unnumbered magazine

    Blackish blue finish throughout, no parkerized parts

    All Longbranch made parts except for a UCF (Upper Canada Force) marked follower

    Steel buttplate with C/Broad arrow marked on trap door

    Buttstock with B over 32, C/Broad arrow, and "L" (Long) on top markings

    Unribbed upper handguard

    Stock marked M16 and F over 57 underneath between bands (I'm assuming postwar replacement?) No C/Broad arrow

    Thanks, Bodes
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    Very nice rifle you have.

    Quote Originally Posted by finloq View Post
    Just arrived:
    1945 No. 4 Mk. I*, serial #89L9316
    1945 5 groove barrel.
    All Canadian: bolt, bolt head, barrel, magazine, trigger, sights, barrel band, etc. All marked: Click image for larger version. 

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    Steel buttplate.
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    smile

    Thanks Finloq,

    I'll keep it in mind.

    Regards,
    Philus.


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    1950 Long Branch 94L7228
    All matching excellent condition
    http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...26#post1451826

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    I'm new to this forum and thought I'd add the info for my Long Branch

    - 1942 Long Branch No.4 Mk1*
    - Serial no. 2L8917
    - Serial no. marked on bolt, receiver, barrel, and magazine
    - Bolt head no. 2
    - (F) FTR
    - 5-groove barrel, bore is excellent
    - Metal parts appear to be blued and most bluing remains
    - Mk3 sheet metal rear sight, with Mk3 on both ladder and slider
    - M/47 stamped on trigger guard, aft of front screw and next to loop
    - Brass butt plate
    - Black plastic oiler
    - I bought this rifle circa 1960...mail order for $12.95
    - Unfortunately, the rifle was too heavy for a 9-year-old deer hunter and I "sporterized" it by removing and discarding the grips and bands.
    - Am in the process of restoring to "as original", although I don't know for sure what it was originally because of the FTR marking

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    51L2879

    no4 mk1*. F(FTR)

    mk2 ladder sight

    5 groove bright shiney deep lands bore

    no1 bolt head

    cosmo up the wazooo. Last owner did a topical clean I stripped it clean

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    Default My Rifle

    I was just given a 1944 no4 mk1* (star) Long Branch and want to know everything about it, here's what I know. mk III sight, clip has no serial number or I do not know where to look, Serial No 77LXXXX, has BNP stamp, Safety has LB logo and Roman Numeral I. The wood looks to have been shortened-does not go to the end of the barrel like all the pictures I have seen of the no4 mk1*, the sling and sling mounts are gone. Butt plate looks original, has a butt disk (stamp on butt disk looks like the letter c with something inside the c) and the stock behind the butt disk is hollow. What is the compartment for? I am a total newbie and this is my first firearm. Apologies if posted in wrong thread. Any information would be appreciated, I don't even know how to disassemble her for cleaning. Here is the serial 1944 Long Branch No4 MK1* Serial 77LXXXX

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    Longbranch No.4 Mk1* 1945 (F)FTR50 Ser#82L99--. sporterized with matching bolt and magazine. Not a hack job. All LB parts/Parker Hale sights dark bluing. Barrel in awesome condition. Pressure tested markings. Shoots dead accurate. Excellent condition. Also, I have a 1941 Maltby No.4 Mk1 with MkIII rear sight, original wood and generally in good condition, still shoots accurately with original bolt and magazine. Barrel in good shape. Serial#M16+++

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