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    Default Paper Patched Bullets

    Has anybody ever tried to paper patch bullets for black powder or smokeless metallic cartridge arms?
    I read a G&A article decades ago where Ross Seyfried explained the process, and dabbled in it myself with smokeless powder cartridges, but what's really intriguing about paper patching is a line I read in a translated Swiss M1889 manual which states that the rifle was designed to use a paper patched bullet. So now I have an itch to borrow the family M1889, and try out some loads.
    From what I remember of the Seyfried article, it's best to use 100% rag paper (that is, made from cotton fiber instead of wood pulp).

    Any rules of thumb as to number of wraps and paper thickness, fit of projectile to groove or land diameter?

    Tips appreciated, and I'll post results as the project goes along.

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    You might also try the forum "The Ammo Bunker" I am curious about the caliber?

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    7.5x55 Swiss, as initially accepted for the M1889 Schmidt Rubin.

    Excerpt from translated manual:
    “- 22 -

    The cartridge K.
    After all trials with bullets, whose jackets consisted of copper, steel,
    nickel and various alloys, the Rubin-designed a r m o r e d b u l l e t with
    paper patch, Model 90, was adopted in place of the jacketed bullet on the
    basis of more advantageous results.
    - 23 -
    The core, of hardened lead, bears as bullet tip a steel cap (armor),
    which is firmly joined with the bullet by crimping; a specially fabricated
    paper, which is externally greased with Vaseline, serves as bullet patch.
    This bullet produces lower erosion of the barrel interior, greater
    tolerance of the same through increased compression capacity and better
    precision with greater penetration.
    …”

    Source:
    Numbered pages 22-23 of this document-
    http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/eng1889man_txt.pdf
    Last edited by Francis Marion; 08-14-2009 at 12:27 PM. Reason: add excerpt

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    Here's a link to Danielson's info on paper patching:

    http://www.public.iastate.edu/%7Ejessie/PPB/PPB.htm

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    I tried paper patching some of my .58 cal trashcans this summer. Worked just great, shot a 47 out of a possible 50, offhand, at 50 yards. They shoot great, but it takes some time to make them.
    Here is a place that has a great message board about paper patching.
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/
    "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
    not.."~ Elmer Fudd......

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    I paper patch all the bullets for my .42 Berdan, as it was intended to be fired. Probably fired hundreds of them.
    Accuracy is excellent. As with all black powder cartridge loading, however, it is a slower prep and loading process than with smokeless powders.
    Sam Cummings laughs at us from the grave!

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    Tons of info on paper patching, learned everything I know about blackpowder cartridge and loading procedures from this site...

    www.castboolits.gunloads.com
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