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  1. #1
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    Default German captured weapons designations

    7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 257 (r) Former russian AVS-36
    7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 258 (r) Former russian SVT-38
    7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 259 (r) Former russian SVT-40
    7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 251 (a) Former American Rifle, caliber.30, M1 (Garand)
    7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 310 (f) Former french Fusil Mitrailleur RSC Mle 1918
    7.62 mm Selbstladekarabiner 455 (a) Former American Carbine, Caliber.30, M1 G-221/223 (Jugoslavians) War reparations after WWI
    G-299 or 98 (Polish) idem
    Gewehr 24 (Czech) build under licence
    Gew 29/40 (Austrian)
    Gew 262 (Belgian)
    Gew 289 (Polish)
    Gew 290/298 (Jugoslavian) build under licence
    Gewehr 98/40 (original 8 mm Huzagol 35M from Hungary)
    Gewehr 33/40 (manufactured in CZ Brno or Waffenfäbrik Brno)
    Gewehr 98 (Austrian Repetier Gewehr 1895 in 8 mm)
    Gewehr 306 (Greek, Italian or jugoslavian G-9
    Gewehr 294 (ex G-98 recalibrated by the jugoslavians to 7.9)
    Gewehr 33 (Musketon vz 16/33 the standard Czech Army carbine)
    Gewehr 209 (Italian Fucille modelo 38 in 6.5 mm)
    Gewehr 210 (Italian Fucille modelo 41 in 6.5 mm)
    Gewehr 211 (Dutch Geweer M95 Manlicher in 6.5 mm)
    Gewehr 214 (Italian Fucille modelo 91 in 6.5 mm)
    Gewehr 215 (Greek mannlicher-Schönauer Model 03/14 in 6.5 mm)
    Gewehr 231 (Italian Fucille modelo 38 in 7.35 mm)
    Gewehr 241 (French model 07-15 M34 in 7.5 mm)
    Gewehr 242 (French MAS-36 in 7.5 mm)
    Gewehr 249 (American Springfield M 03 in 7.62)
    Gewehr 252 (Russian Mosin M-91 in 7.62 and Jugoslavian Puska M91R)
    Gewehr 254 (Russian Mosin M-91/30 in 7.62)
    Gewehr 256 (Russian Mosin M-91/30 in 7.62 with 3.5 telescope)
    Gewehr 261 (Belgian Fusil 1889 Mauser in 7.65 mm)
    Gewehr 263 (Belgian Fusil 36 Mauser in 7.65 mm)
    Gewehr 281 (British Rifle Nº 1 Mk III in 7.7 mm)
    Gewehr 301 (French model 1886 transforme 1893 in 8 mm)
    Gewehr 302 (French model 1907 transforme 1915 in 8 mm)
    Gewehr 303 (French model 1886 racroche 1935 in 8 mm)
    Gewehr 304 (French model 1916 in 8 mm)
    Gewehr 305 (French model 1907 dit colonial in 8 mm)
    Gewehr 307 (Jugoslavian Puska 8 mm M93)
    Gewehr 311 (Danish Gevaer m/89-10 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 408 (Italian Moschetto modello 38 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 409 (Italian Moschetto modello 91 for cavalry in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 410 (Italian Moschetto m 91 for technical troops in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 411 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 1 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 412 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 1 OM en NM in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 413 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 3 OM en NM in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 414 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 4 OM en NM in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 411(n) (Norwegian Kavalerikarabin m/1894 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 412(n) (Norwegian Kavalerikarabin m/1895 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 413(n) (Norwegian Ingenieorkarabin m/1904 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 414(n) (Norwegian Artillerikarabin m/1907 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 415 (Norwegian Karabin m/1912 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 416 (Italian moschetto modello 91/24 in 6.5 mm)
    Karabiner 430 (Italian moschetto modello 38 in 7.35 mm)
    Karabiner 451 (Belgian Carabine 1889 in 7.65 mm)
    Karabiner 453 (Belgian Carabine 1916 in 7.65 mm)
    Karabiner 454 (Russian Karabin obr 1938 g in 7.62 mm)
    Karabiner 457 (Russian Karabin obr 1944 g in 7.62 mm)
    Karabiner 494 (Greek S-95)
    Karabiner 497 (Polish Karabinek 91/98/25 in 7.92 mm [ex Mosin])
    Karabiner 505 (Italian or jugoslavian S-95)
    Karabiner 506/1 (Danish Fodfolkskarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 506/2 (Danish Artilleriekarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 506/3 (Danish Ingeniorkarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 506/1 (Danish Rytterkarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 551 (French model 1890 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 552 (French model 1892 in 8 mm)
    Karabiner 553 (French model 1916 in 8 mm)
    Stützen 95 (Austrian Repetier-Stützen-Gewehr m-1895 in 8 mm)
    MP.704(f) (ex-Frence PM Vollmar Erma)
    MP.715(r) (PPD 34/38)
    MP.716(r) (PPD 40)
    MP.717(r) (PPSh 41)
    MP.719 (r) Captured Russian PPs-43 MP.722 (f) Captured French Mas-38
    MP.738 (i) Beretta model 38/42
    MP.739(i) (Beretta Mo.938)
    MP.740(b) (ex-Belgian Mi.Schmeisser-Bayard Mle.34)
    MP.741 (d) (The license built Bergman made in Denmark)
    MP.746 (d) (Madsen M-42)
    MP.749 (e) Captured British Sten Mk II
    MP.751 (e) Captured British Sten Mk II with silencer
    MP.760 (e)/(j)/(a)/(r) Captured Thompson M-28 from British, US, Yugoslavian or Soviet)
    MP.761 (f) Captured Thompson M-1921 purchased by France in 1939
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    Hambone, I only have a partial copy of this, but it is interesting that the Germans did not appear to distinguish between the Austrian M95 in 8x50 from the same in 8x56. Is there a difference noted elsewhere? The portion I have, includes the Yugo Model 90T, a Turk 1890 shortened and converted to 7.92, it is clearly marked NICHT SCHIESSEN!

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    Nate, I cannot vouch for the reliability of that list as I plagiarized it from the internet. However, the ones I know about seem to be listed correctly
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    Not sure if they adopted a special designation for each, but they did keep records of each type inventoried after the Anschluss. The list I have lists M95, M95A, M95/31 and M95/37 and 8mm altere Mannlicher among half a dozen other types on hand in 1938, which included the 7mm M14 Steyr "Mexikaner" which they had 52 rifles on hand.

    They kept rather detail lists of the equipment they took, - have one for Yugoslavia too- lots of different stuff they took there.. seems the most chaotic occupations were the Czech (where they were in a panic to remove all arms to the safety of Germany) and Poland where their inexperience made for costly mistakes that helped arm the future resistance.

    They learned quick.

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    SimsonSuhl, that is very interesting about the inventory list of the Austrian M95 variants. There has been some uncertainty on the Mannlicher Boards about the official Austrian designations for them.

    It is possible for you to scan and post the pertinent pages? Or some other way to make this info available?

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    Hello,
    did the Germans mark (stamp) the captured weapons accordingly? Or did they only use that designations in their records/files?

    Attached photo shows instruction/description for dutch M95 rifle, dated 1941 for police. Nothing about "Gew.211h" in that.

    Thanks
    Tom

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