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    Default Dutch Police carbine question*PICS ADDED*

    A local shop has acquired a mauser carbine that they have recently identified as a Dutch Police carbine.
    Excellent condition overall, mint bore, Belgian proofs which make me think it's FN, but receiver is blank- no crest, bolt mismatch.
    My question is regarding value- might anyone be able to hazard a guess?
    Thanks.
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    Hi Moconfed,
    As far as I know, all Dutch FN-made carbines are marked with distinct Dutch receiver images, either "J", "W", "IOB", or "Polite". Consequently, if the carbine is not Dutch marked, it's not Dutch. Unfortunately, there are many un-crested FN carbines around, almost all of which have no known pedigree. Genuine Dutch Mauser 98 carbines are well marked and worth quite a bit on the collector's market. Although the unmarked carbines are the same style as the genuine Dutch carbines, their worth and collectibility is much less.

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    Hmmm- sounds like I'm going to make a trip to the shop and get pics. It may be in my price range after all.
    Thanks for the info.

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    horrible pics:

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    I believe these are ID'd as Moroccan police carbines or some such in the Mauser Military Rifles of the world book. Do a search here and you will probably find some info. Also, it appears someone replaced the lower band with a Swedish mauser band as evidenced by the crown. The Dutch carbines do not have the sling mounting on the side of the buttstock.
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    im not liking the rear band, cleaning rod, or the way the fwd band overrides the rear band retainer. still cool, if the price is right.
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    Actually I believe that the shortish cleaning rod is correct for one of these Belgian made carbines. I have the same size rod in the carbine being discussed, as well as in my Dutch police and Venezuela FN carbines. My lower band has a swivel on the bottom and a solid sling bar on the side. My carbine is .30-06, but I've also seen one or more in 7.62 Nato.

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    It looks like the lower band is from an 1896 Swedish mauser, based on the Swedish crown mark above the serial number.

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    What caliber is this rifle in?
    Moroccan police carbines will be in either 7.62x51 or .30-'06.
    A few years back Sarco was selling some carbines in 8MM. Consensus at the time was that Sarco made them up. Perhaps this is what you have?

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    Good catch Returnspring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladymere View Post
    What caliber is this rifle in?
    Moroccan police carbines will be in either 7.62x51 or .30-'06.
    A few years back Sarco was selling some carbines in 8MM. Consensus at the time was that Sarco made them up. Perhaps this is what you have?

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    So, is the carbine import-marked? If so, what does the mark say?
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    It is marked 8x57 according to the import mark. Anybody have a value? The shop has it marked as a Dutch carbine- almost $600

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    A mis-matched mongrel carbine for $600? $200 to $250 (max) is reasonable. Run quickly away from these bandits.
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    Advice taken- I believe I'll stick with k98's. Thanks, Gents!

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