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    Just wondering what everyone considers their top five most rare in their collection based on how you view them. Some of my most rare aren't my most expensive. For me they would be,

    1. Polish Vis 35 1939 Dated 99% with correct holster and extra magazine.

    2. Tula M44 YY18 Training rifle. Same one up on Ted's site.

    3. Ex-Sniper Yugo 59/66. Still looking for the mount though along with the twin the member Denny has here in a M59

    4. Mosin Nagant Dragoon updated with the Finn modified front sight.

    5. J.P. Saur drilling that is almost like new.

    Runners up for me,
    1. Peruvian short rifle that turned out to be only of a handful known, sold to another member here since South American mausers aren't my collecting focus.

    2. Karab 98B that has total mixed up parts and a bad bore, so the condition brought it off the list.

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    1932 VKT M27

    Everything else is run of the mill.

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    Tula Hex M38

    1933 Tula PE, finnish marked and still has the holes and only one of a couple of hundred captured and marked.

    Mahogany stcoked m/96. One of two known in this configuration

    Austrian Steyr M95, all original matching with sheet metal front sight protector.

    1944 Izhevsk PU. All stamped original matching, every part is Izhevsk marked and 1944 era parts as it rolled off the factory floor in 1944.
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    A no name single shot shotgun in poor condition.

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    I dunno about my one Turk 1903 that still has squiggles but got refitted to 8mm and with a grasping-groove H-band stock... I think it might be rare, but I dunno who did it, so I dunno how rare it is.

    These are the simple rares.

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    1943 tula finn capture pu
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    Here's what I would say are the best ones in no particular order:
    1. 1932 Puolust Uslaitos marked M27
    2. 1945 M38 non-import marked (came in possible VC jungle stock)
    3. M91 B barrel round receiver
    4. 1941 Tula 91/30 Finn capture '41 marked
    5. M28 Tikka with the sliding adjustable rear sight notch (Slimedog wants this one.)

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    1923 Tula Dragoon; non-Finn marked; early dragoon handguard and bands
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    M91rv
    M27rv
    1935 VKT M27
    1936 Tikka M27
    1943 Izhevsk M44 Finnish [SA] marked carbine.
    1939 Tula SVT38 Finnish [SA] marked
    1956 Czech Vz.54 sniper
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    "Lebel" Fusil d'infanterie de 7,5 mm modle 1886 M93 M27
    "Berthier" Fusil d'infanterie de 7,5 mm modle 07-15 M34 (just acquired a 2nd example)
    "Berthier" M.1916 Training Rifle. Caliber: .22 lr
    Webley Model 1910 in .38 acp
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    Springfield 1866 50-70 Trapdoor, converted 1863 Springfield musket. Not really "rare" but my research shows only about 50,000 or so were made........given the fact that many were given to Native American scouts when 45-70's came out and were probably used hard and then discarded when they broke, plus breakage and "attrition" and that many were also turned into sporter buffalo guns, I can't imagine too many exist in original military configuration.

    1945 Sako M39, again was told not a whole lot of these with this date were made.

    1934 Finn capture 91/30 with the "42" stamp, again not really rare but I have not seen another one and I bought this about 5 years ago.

    Polish Wz29. Rare in that the only other one I have seen was at a gun show for $1,000, mine is "scrubbed" and got it for about $400.

    1892 Krag rifle, reportedly rare, but mine is a Bannerman type cut down so thus not collectible as a true 1892 long rifle any more.

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    1903a4 then the Venezuelan FN49. Every thing else is pretty run of the mill. ETA the G43 and Hakim. You don't see many of them
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    It's hard to choose 5, as the rarest, aren't necessarily the favorites of the collection...
    M 28 upgraded to M-28-30 in cherry condition
    M 91 Ulaani carbine Westinghouse
    M 38 SA marked 1941
    US marked Bannerman M 91 3006 carbine conversion in absolutely stunning factory new museum grade condition
    M 39 B barrel AND VKT marked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaarok View Post
    I dunno about my one Turk 1903 that still has squiggles but got refitted to 8mm and with a grasping-groove H-band stock... I think it might be rare, but I dunno who did it, so I dunno how rare it is.

    These are the simple rares.

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    1901 Izhevsk M91/30
    1915 N.E.W. M91 Puolustuslaitos marked
    1927 Tula SCW Dragoon
    1941 Izhevsk M38 Finnish [SA] marked
    1942 Izhevsk ex-PEM
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    If were really talking "rare" - as in very small number made. Distinct and well known collector variation, and not just by condition. None of my Moisins or SVTs would qualify. So if acceptible to board:

    IHC/SA Postage Stamp M1 Garand, Collector Grade - one of only 500 to 1000 made.
    M1D with 1" mount and Weaver K4 scope - one of 500-1000 made for National Guard in 1960s
    Syrian MAS 49 - one of 6000
    Egyptian Rasheed - one of 8000
    Walther G41(W) Trials Rifle - One of about 8700 made.
    Albanian SKS - one of 10-20k (forgot the lastest number claimed)
    Remington M1941 1903 rifle - one of 15-20k made, earliest model
    1903A4 Sniper with Weaver B73 scope
    Winchester WIN13 M1 Garand Collector Grade - one of 40K
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    I really enjoy seeing what you guys have in your collections. Here are 5 of my "rare" ones.
    1. 1907 carbine
    2. M 91/24 carbine
    3. M91 Calvary School carbine
    4. M91 Cossack rifle
    5. M28/30 "MM" marked in a walnut stock and in the correct serial number range
    6. M27rv carbines

    OK, so I cannot count very good.

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    I think these great looking rifles. Mighty fine. But I wouldn't advertise them on the net.
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    I'm sucking hind *** when it comes to you other guys, but...

    1. WWII Ithica M37.....rarest US martial shotgun
    2. 1914 Republica Mexicana 7mm Arisaka carbine
    3. 1916 original configuration dragoon w/Bulgarian circle B, solid bands
    4. Iraqi 9mm Tariq licensed copy of Beretta Brigadeer
    5. Pre-WWII configuration all-matching MAS36 with V-1 engine ID plate bradded to butt
    6. tie Albanian SKS and Egyptian Rasheed both all matching and both very low total production numbers
    7. M95 Steyr long rifle...unlike the short rifles these are hard to find
    8. 1936 TT-33 complete, matching, no safety, no import marks, no refurb
    9. M91 Remington all- matching ex-Czech Legion later Jap single shot training rifle
    10. Balkan Moslem M48 Mauser with great trench art carvings
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    1932 VKT M27
    1941 Tula SVT-40, Finn'd.

    Hopefully I have many more years to expand on this.

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    I'm like Tom-M above. If talking "rare" in the collectors sense of the word, then I have none. The only two I have that could come close to being "harder to find" would be:

    P-26 marked M91

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    Nope, not a single firearm to list. I am extremely pleased with what I do have in my collection because they are either original, all-matching examples or as close as I can get and money can buy. However, none are "rare" per se.

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    North Vietnamese SKS
    Wz48 w/Archer
    GEW98/K98 Convertion SS Marked
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    Let's see...

    French-MAS 49/56 "MSE" Competition Rifle- Excellent condition

    Hungarian 52M Sniper (91/30 PU type)- Pristine-- like new all matching including scope

    Finn M24- "lotta" rifle -Excellent condition

    British No 4 Mk 2 "Irish contract" Unissued

    1943 "Tikka" M39 Unissued

    1941 Tula SVT 40- Finn Capture (DOH! That's SIX...... and the '43 Izhevsk SVT 40 in a "Soviet Marines" AVT 40 stock)


    WHen you have a large collection, sometimes it's hard to choose! Although my Czech M91/38 Mosin with 1906 barrel in astonishing condition is right up there, my Swede M96 "FSR" rifle, my pristine Steyr M95 Infantry long rifle, and my Columbian Madsen M47/58 ( like new), and ... while it's not a milsurp... I'm Quite fond of my Belgian FN made, Browning "Sweet Sixteen", My Early Weatherby "South gate" Rifle built on a mauser action, and my Wilkinson Arms "Linda" 9MM Carbine..... and Rashid.. and FN49.... and.......LOL Stop me! My hands are twitching and I'm drooling on the keyboard..........ROFL

    Hard to say! I love them all!
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    First model Russian contract Smith and Wesson No. 3, first issue (assembly numbered) Serial No 4XX
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    BSA made Berdan II rifle

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    Honorable mention - 1905 dated Nagant revolver for a shoulder stock
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    Although I have some truly rare rifles when going by condition, originality, or numbers left, going by tom-m's criteria (fewer then 20k produced) my rarest are

    1. Japanese type 02/45 (fewer then 150 believed to have been assembled)
    2. Finnish M91 1920's tikka production (approximately 7,000 made)
    3. Finnish M39 SKY contract (approximately 10,000 made)

    Everything else I have is more numerous then that when throwing condition and originality out the window.
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    I guess my short list would be

    1926 Winchester Model 12,( absolutley pristine)
    Type 99 Japanese Sniper rifle #'s matching/less scope
    1944 Tula Hex M38
    1944 Tula PU sniper
    1921 Marble's Game Getter
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    My lord there are some rare guns listed in the thread. I'm fortunate to own a few but you members sure have great taste!
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    how about seven rasheeds, 8000 made, only 2000 inported to US
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    No. 1 Mk VI trials rifle, one of 1,025 produced
    1943 Long Branch Sniper, matching REL scope, one of 71 made in 1943, one of less than 1,200 or so produced,
    Enforcer, all correct, one of estimated 400 remaining of 767 produced
    L-42A1 with matching, correct chest, matching L1A1 scope, one of 1,080 produced
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    1942 Izzy refurb.. nah just kidding.
    1930 91/30 Finn Capture
    19?? Armi Jaeger AP-80 (Need parts help!)
    Everything else is sort of run of the mill... I do have an IDF Mauser FN on the way though.
    Seeking Mosin Nagant 91/30 with the serial number Prefix"EB"
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    Just off the top of my head, here's 5 at the higher end of the collection, but not necessarily "rare" - I sold my all-matching M1907 carbine to a good friend last year...

    In no particular order...

    1. 1885 Sestroryetsk Berdan II
    2. Montenegron contract 1898 Tula M.91
    3. Lithuanian marked 1900 Tula M.91
    4. BSW Mod. W625B Hitler Youth training rifle, "SA" and "Gruppe Kurpfalz" marked
    5. 1941 Kovrov SVT-40

    OK, need to add these Mausers as 6-10

    6. bolt-mismatched M937 Portuguese K.98
    7. bnz 43 "single-rune" RC K.98 with inverted eagles
    8. "IX 43" depot receiver RC K.98
    9. German reworked Vz-24, WaA and eagles proofs on stock
    10. bolt-mismatched dou 42 G.24(t)
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    Mostly run of the mill.
    The only one I have that's remotely close would be a 1919 Tula M91.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennedy View Post
    how about seven rasheeds, 8000 made, only 2000 inported to US
    I have six Hakm sold one, here I thought I was weird.
    Have got to get more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike O View Post
    1943 Izhevsk M44 Finnish [SA] marked carbine.
    I'd like to see pics of this if possible.

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    Quite a few "Hard to Finds" but my two Portuguese Verguero 04/39's are probably the rarest..one is #1 (B) and the other is #10,000 (D) ( both matching)

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    nothing really rare. 28/30 (2) including like new 1934 undated. 1912 norwegian carbine, (needs stock). vz-32 needs stock. several vz-23's.
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    Let's see....

    new never issued No4 303 Enfield.
    immaculate all matching M96 Swedish Mauser (2)
    1898 Tula M91
    1905 Finnish M91
    1944, 1943 Tikka Finnish M91/30's

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    Off the top of my head, in no particular order-
    1. 27rv carbine
    2. M24 stepped barrel with "Christmas Tree"
    3. Hungarian M52 VN bring back (no scope)
    4. 1893 Izhevsk M91 SCW
    5. Romanian 91/30
    Hebrews 13:8
    Remember the three rules of the air. Repeat them with me. Always look before you turn, turn right to avoid collision and the lower jumper has the right-of-way.

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    1939 Izhevsk hex receiver SA marked M38
    1961 Albanian M91/30 all matching with original acacia stock
    1942 Tula M91/30 FLPMi marked- the one pictured in Drei Linien 2
    1916 Sestrorysk M91 renumbered by Albania pictured in Drei Linien 2 (yes, I do think that being in the book makes them more rare and more valuable. Thanks KH.)
    1934 Nagant M1895


    Honorable mention
    1944 Tula M44 laminated stock, East German marked.

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