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    Default WTK Value of various Chinese 7.62x39 ammo

    I picked up a bunch of Chinese 7.62X39 ammo in a trade and I don't have a use for it so for sale it will go. Looking for what the fair market price is. Please don't make me use Gunbroker to figure out a FAIR price.

    ARMCO - made to military spec 351 over 88 head stamp,copper wash case, steel core
    China Sports - green and white box, 351 over 93, SP, non corrosive, green (lacquer?) case
    Norinco - brown (lacquer?) case, 71 over 93 head stamp, lead core non corrosive
    Norince/China Sports - 31 over 93 head stamp, copper wash case, FMJ, lead core

    I do have 2 AR's in 7.62X39 and 4K+ of Sako ammo so this is going.

    Thanks, Ken

    edit - all of the boxes say non corrosive for what ever that is worth. The ammo was made in 88 and 93 based on headstamps.
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    The 31 might be corrosive (copper wash)

    the laquer probably isnt . If you find out

    what you want for it pm me. Who knows



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    Captk,
    If I was you I'd keep it as we'll never see that stuff again until they open up trade with China-(again?). The stuff you have is far much better than the Lapua you are holding. Read Poot's thread:
    http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...ective-answers...

    The yaw of the Norinco Chinese is equivalent if not better than the Russian. The Lapua is no where near those two. The cost of the Norinco stuff is up there too,IMO.
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    I only punch holes in paper and I have found both the Lapua and Sako ammo very accurate. I have also been out of work for a year. I got the ammo in a trade and just want to sell it at a fair market price and use the proceeds to fund the hobby.
    Ken

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    When I do sell the copper washed stuff, it goes for 50c a round on the chargers, and it sells almost always.

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    I decided to verify the steel core is steel core and it is lead, not steel. Just goes to show not everything on the internet is true.
    Ken

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    .50 for steel-core is the going rate! However it is not AP, but simply mild steel but Bubba usually sells it as AP!

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    The ammo I thought was steel core is not. i cur open a bullet and it is lead core. Seems like $.50 for copper wash and I'll start the lacquer at $.40 and see if there is any interest. I can't find much for sale and that I did find was listed at $1 per round, way over priced.
    Thanks, Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Elk View Post
    Captk,
    If I was you I'd keep it as we'll never see that stuff again until they open up trade with China-(again?). The stuff you have is far much better than the Lapua you are holding. Read Poot's thread:
    http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...ective-answers...

    The yaw of the Norinco Chinese is equivalent if not better than the Russian. The Lapua is no where near those two. The cost of the Norinco stuff is up there too,IMO.
    Fred
    I have always found the Lapua ammo to be about the most accurate in the X39 cal.

    In glancing through the article about wound ballistics, the following caught my eye!
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    The specialized 7.62 x 54 mm 200 gr FMJ sniper ammo for the Dragunov SVD !
    Quote!

    All sources i ever read have always said the 200 gr. X54 ammo was not to be used in any Dragunov rifles, since as little as 20 rounds have been known to tear these guns up and they were designed to only use the 150 gr. ammo! LOL

    Makes me wonder about the rest of the guys conclusions!

    All Chinese ammo should be considered somewhat corrosive, since even if the ammo is not, the primer may be!

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    I posted all of the ammo (approx 1,500 rnds) for sale at $.41 per round, all sold in 1 hr.

    Thanks, Ken

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    good for you. i sure would'nt give 50 cents a round for it...... but i would'nt count on the china sports to be non corrosive.
    " Dude with a pencil is worse than a cat with a machinegun"... Bo Diddley

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    I wouldn't give $.30 per round for it, I got it in a trade and wanted to unload it, and I did!

    Ken

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    me either..... like i said, i'm happy for you. BUT, i would warn the buyer the chinese ammo may be corrosive, and to clean according. that was my point.
    " Dude with a pencil is worse than a cat with a machinegun"... Bo Diddley

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    Quote Originally Posted by captk View Post
    I posted all of the ammo (approx 1,500 rnds) for sale at $.41 per round, all sold in 1 hr.

    Thanks, Ken
    Wow. That's surprising with commercial ammo in this caliber down to about $0.20/round! Maybe I should break out some of my Chinese steel core ammo to sell!

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    The Chinese ammo has a mystique all it's own. Whenever I want to sell off any, lead or steel core, it always sells. The lead not for as much as the steel core mil spec stuff, but the idea of it not being available anymore is it's best selling point. On GunBroker I used to sell off some extra 550 round tins and always got 40 to 60c a round by the time auction was over.

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    Most of the stuff I have didn't come in tins, but it came sealed in plastic inside of a wooden crate...



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    to me, that yellow box norinco is collectable, i would'nt shoot it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falm16 View Post
    me either..... like i said, i'm happy for you. BUT, i would warn the buyer the chinese ammo may be corrosive, and to clean according. that was my point.
    I made sure to tell buyer that although it said non corrosive to treat it as corrosive to be on the safe side.

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    This can is marked, the other isn't. Only thing I can figure is they marked one of the two cans in the crate (which is probably floating around here somewhere...).
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    Cool Chinese (NORINCO) headstamp "31 over 93"

    Guys, I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but I have several "spam" cans (720's, not the 550's...these cans are sorta' rare in themselves anymore, but it didn't come loaded on 10rd chargers as I was led to believe. Regardless, the ammo is still steel core and chargers aren't that expensive to make it have turned out to be a bad deal...) of the NORINCO 31 over 93 and recently disassembled a cartridge to check to see if it was indeed steel core or not. Turns out that 31 over 93 is indeed steel core, completely copper washed and there's no doubt about it, unless you have a case that is specifically labeled "lead core" ammo, it should be steel core. I don't know if it's non-corrosive, but with a mfg. date of 1993, it's possible it's non-corrosive, too. I always pull a bullet or two of a suspect lot, just to know what I have. Besides, the difference between the two types of rounds is quite pronounced. One has a flat bottom and is completely copper jacketed, the other, is slightly elongated and you can see the bottom of the steel core insert from the opening in the bottom of the round. It shines right through the surrounding copper.

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    I am pretty sure the stuff in the 720 cans is corrosive mil spec ammo too. It came wrapped in brown bag paper too that was folded not stapled. I still have one sealed case of that stuff. Gun show in early 2000's guy was selling off the stuff for 8-10c a round even in those days. The Wolf had flooded the market and in those days sold for that price too. I always liked the Chinese ammo better than the Wolf though. The ammo shot great through my SKS's and AK rifles.

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    Keep the Chinese stuff, rather it be steel core or not. Stopped coming in the U.S.A. in 07'. It is considered collectable in some circles. Nothing really special about the Chinese stuff other than you can't get it anymore.

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    Gents,

    Interesting thread. I used to buy the NORINCO yellow box stuff at gunshows for $100 a crate back in the day. I would not place anymore value on it than the current lot of imports. I am glad you got the price you did for it. I'll keep that in mind the next time I come across some for sale. I suspect there are garages and basements packed full of that stuff. On a side note, I found the Chinese CJA 5.56mm NATO filthy, but pretty accurate fodder out of ARs. It too used to sell for about 10 cents a round. I don't see those prices coming back anytime soon.

    Enjoy, Shannon
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    I have to say that I sorely miss the chinese ammo.I wouldn't pay the high prices it fetches to those who think its AP, BUT-it was way more accurate than the current Russian stuff! I wish it was available again & would pay slightly more for it than current russian(you never knew if chinese was actually corrosive or not just by the label, but who cares?)

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    I like the Chinese ammo for the accuracy I've seen with it over shooting Wolf. The good news is, I get the same "improved" accuracy from the current Yugo and it is a lot easier to find.
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