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    now im no expert on mausers, but i was down at my local gun shop today and he knows to call me when he gets any mausers because i will almost always buy them. he had one there today that had a unfinished stock, unnumbered bands, no bayo lug, no take down disk, everything that had numbers matched. my question is this, the receiver says "dot 1945" i always thought 44 was the last year for dot rifles, i could be wrong. it also looks like the font on the 5 is a different font than the 194. any thoughts on this?

    also both bands are made of aluminium and are waffen marked but i couldnt make out the number.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    The only dot 45's I've seen are post-war Czech built rifles. Check the rifle for proof stamps to see if they're German or Czech lions. The 5 is odd on these. Usual price on postwar rifles assembled in Czechoslovakia (with un-scrubbed receivers) runs $300ish, depending on condition.

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    I have an Israeli Mauser(7.62x51)with a dot 1945 receiver.The font used for the 5 is definitely different from that of the 194.The other items you noticed are similar to mine.Perhaps another Israeli???
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    its deff all german proofs, eagles and all. hes asking $135 for it. it is still in 7.92x57mm also has to most cosmo i have ever seen on a rifle. he had it on the rack by the window in the sun all day, there was a puddle of cosmo on the rack under the gun. just seemed odd to me and wanted to make sure i wasnt missing something
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    At that price, get it.
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    buy em all day at the price.

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    Did you say aluminum Bands?
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    135 Is a STEAL for a 98k of almost any kind. It would part out for more. RUN and buy that.

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    yes i did say aluminum bands, both of them. when i took them off they were light as a feather and would not pick up to my magnet.

    called tonight told him ill take it, once i get my hands on it i will most certainly post pictures.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    regarding DOT 1945 mausers in original, German issue configuration, not Czech marked:

    In a Boulder Colorado gunshop in 1976 I handled, but did not buy, a new and unissued Kar98k marked: DOT 1945, with the 5 being a little off-line with the other digits as though stamped later. The gun was all matching, as far as it was numbered at all, with a white-blond, unfinished, laminated stock. It had the large, "winter" trigger guard. It's unusual condition caused it to be priced at three times what I paid that same day for an all-matching BYF-44 with a phosphate bolt ($50.) I cannot remember what the metal finish was on the DOT.

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    Dont part it out until you post some pictures here, it could be a sleeper

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    So did you get it??? Let us see some pics! Good luck with a possible sleeper!

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    Yes-definitely would like to see that one
    Looking for 26 waffenamt(Borsigwald) milled triggerguard and floorplate serial # 5294

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    hi all, hate to disappoint you, but i did not buy it. i noticed a bulge in the stock near the trigger guard and some of the lamination coming apart, when i pulled the action out of the stock under all the grease and cosmo the bottom of the receiver had a 1" long 1/8" wide crack that continued into the barrel. already have too many parts guns and project guns so i just left it behind. kinda bummed, would have been nice to add it to my collection.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    This would explain the $135, I guess.
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    well he didnt even know it had that issue until i pulled it apart, he was just selling it off as-is. i wonder if someone tried to shoot it with all that cosmo in it.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    At that price I still would have picked it up if for nothing else than the parts.

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    Last edited by finestkind; 10-30-2010 at 12:09 AM. Reason: spelling

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    i would have, but i have 10 or so parts guns with a couple buckets of various parts, i end up buying an original 98k sling from him for $90 instead
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    thats exactly what he has at the shop except its got eagles instead of lions and its got the kriegsmodell stock, rough finished, bare wood, with no bayo lug, no band spring. no finish left on the gun or it may have never been blued and the front and rear bands are cast aluminimum.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    Love it!!!!!!





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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield1853 View Post
    thats exactly what he has at the shop except its got eagles instead of lions and its got the kriegsmodell stock, rough finished, bare wood, with no bayo lug, no band spring. no finish left on the gun or it may have never been blued and the front and rear bands are cast aluminimum.
    German proofed dot45 with aluminum bands? Please go back and buy it and post up pics!

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    It'd be worth $135! If nothing else, a resto. of sorts, or parts!

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    i wont have a chance to get down there till later in the week, as he closes at 5 and i dont get out of work till 5. if its still there ill grab it.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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    I've done a lot of research into Czech mausers, late war and from everything I have learned DOT45 marked rifles are EXCLUSIVELY post war production. The WaA parts mean nothing as there were thousands of rifles still in line at wars end and plenty of Nazi marked parts. Early 1945 production were still marked DOT44 and then Waffenwerke Brunn switched to SWP45 coded receivers. The DOT45 and TGF50 receivers were all post war as were the " winter" trigger guards. Post war guns sometimes had Czech lion proofs and Brno marked siderails. They always had upper case serial suffixxes. They are still great rifles just not wartime production. They were made by the same factory, on the same machinery and often by the same people as German wartime production.

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    This is my favorite dot45 marked example I've ever seen.
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    Nice Mauser, mrfarb. Does the bolt have a guide rib and does it have Nazi markings as well?

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    i remember seeing that one on a certain auction site I think (could be wrong as I look at so many different auctions). :P It was nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike webb View Post
    Nice Mauser, mrfarb. Does the bolt have a guide rib and does it have Nazi markings as well?
    I wish I could tell you, it ain't mine.

    I was commenting on how much I like it.
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    Did you pick it up?

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    i did not, i bought a high turret replica he had on the rack instead (and for $775 how could i not?) original mounts with a late 40s scope, its a tack driver.
    so i bring home another 98k and she says to me. "another mauser? you already have like six" i just shrug my shoulders as she walks away i open the safe to reveal nearly 50 mausers...

    glad she cant tell one mauser from the next...

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