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LLama Serial Number Database - Please Add Yours!

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the "Llama" name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. I strongly suspect that Gabilondo y Cia started a continuous one-ascending number system from the point where they adopted the Llama name (the early 1930s?). To start, these are some numbers I have. Please list model name/number, caliber, year code (if available), and serial number.

"Extra" 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680
"Extra" 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306
"Extra" 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883
Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989
Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked)
Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290
Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482
"Extra" 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123
Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813
 
#81 ·
OK, here are my additions to the database:

Llama .22 1967 blued SN 403153
Llama .22 1992 HC SN C07296
Llama .32 Model 1 N~ Mod 1 SN 63674
Llama .32 Model 1 V 1951 SN 147009
Llama .380 1942 N Mod 3 SN 56182
Llama .380 1942 N Mod 3 SN 54699
Llama .380 1943 N~ Mod 2 SN 71697
Llama .380 1949 T Mod 3 SN 135417
Llama .380 1975 SN 651644
Llama .380 1980 SN B65548
Llama 380 1950 U W SN 78574
Llama Max-1 1911 SN 71-04-01700-0571-04-00265-00
Llama Minimax .45 HC SN 71-04-00265-00
 
#93 ·
1. .380 ACP, A5154X, n*2, vent rib, Stoeger
2. .380 ACP, 73563X, V10, vent rib, Stoeger
3. .380 ACP, 40733X, M*1, vent rib, no importer mark
4. .45 ACP, 71-04-1227X-01, Fabrinor, satin nickel accents, black rubber grips. R.S.A. Ent. Inc.
5. .45 ACP, 71-04-1460X-01, Same as No. 4
6. .45 ACP, 71-04-1460X-01, Consecutive s.n. with No.5
7. .45 ACP, 48442X, vent rib, Stoeger, purchased new in 1969, presently in storage so can't get date mark. Will try to get back to this at a later date.
 
#103 ·
That's the closest comparison I found and I agree it is an incredible pistol zero failures of any kind even with some extended mags I made for it. Also it doesn't have the vent rib on the top of the slide, it has grooves. Was the XV model made slightly different over the years and also if you can tell me what is an especial over an XV? Thank you.
 
#105 ·
The XV model is their .22ACP semi-auto pistol. It changed over the years, mainly the slide and components of it like the rear sight, extractor, firing pin, raised rib, etc.

IMO, the Especial line was their best product. It seemed to have the best machining and blueing. To me, it was just marketing (adding the word Especial) because the models were still the same but I seek out the Especial pistols when I look to buy. They stopped the Especial line in the 70s and the quality also seemed to slip a bit starting at the time they dropped the designation. So, you can have a later model XV that is not an Especial and you can have an earlier model XV that is an Especial.
 
#106 ·
Your Max I L/F was made in 1995.
IMO, the Max series on the large frame Llamas was their best (and last) attempt at the 1911 market. It is the closest to the mil-spec design
and I've found them to be excellent shooters. I have a Max I L/F in 9mm that I'd put up against any 9mm 1911 out there. When you consider
the price of 1911s in 9mm, you can't beat the Llama Max series for price and reliability. I'd have no issues putting down $350 for a Llama
Max series large frame pistol if I wanted a 1911 type handgun. Their C/F (compact frame) models in the Max series are also nice guns for the money but the L/F models are spot on.
 
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