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    Default Finnish Stock Maker's Markings: A little help, please?...I seem to be lost again...

    Hello folks!!

    I can't seem to locate the link to whichever Mosin site has the info for:

    The actual Finnish Stock Maker's LOCATION of the actual place where the stocks were made...and/or NAME associated with the 'L' and 'Z' cartouches on Finnish stocks...


    I have found the 'generic' pics on BOTH sites...however...I can't seem to find that link that I KNOW I have seen before that tells about the actual Stock maker's...

    anyone help a guy out??
    MY FIRST TEN MOSIN NAGANTS:
    1925 Izhevsk m1891/30 Ex-Dragoon- "Katalin"
    1939 Tula m1891/30 Lam. Stock- "Irena"
    1934 Tikka m27- "Tiina-Rakel"
    1938 Tula m1891/30 Finn Captured- "Nainen Sodassa"
    1955 Type 53 Carbine- "Thu Huong"
    1944 Tikka m1891/30- "Isoäiti"
    1942 VKT m1891- "Mummo"
    1916 Tula PTG m1891 Finn'd- "Petra"
    1967 No-Maker m39- "Tuuli"
    1926-8 Bohler-Stahl m24- "Vanha Rouva"

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    ...somebody's GOT to have this info somewhere!!...I saw a thread with pics that were originally linked to the original location...

    ...it showed pics with the crossed cannon cartouches with either 'L' or 'Z' markings within the cartouche...it went on to describe WHERE the stocks were produced, and by WHOM!!...


    can anybody please...HELP?!?!?!
    MY FIRST TEN MOSIN NAGANTS:
    1925 Izhevsk m1891/30 Ex-Dragoon- "Katalin"
    1939 Tula m1891/30 Lam. Stock- "Irena"
    1934 Tikka m27- "Tiina-Rakel"
    1938 Tula m1891/30 Finn Captured- "Nainen Sodassa"
    1955 Type 53 Carbine- "Thu Huong"
    1944 Tikka m1891/30- "Isoäiti"
    1942 VKT m1891- "Mummo"
    1916 Tula PTG m1891 Finn'd- "Petra"
    1967 No-Maker m39- "Tuuli"
    1926-8 Bohler-Stahl m24- "Vanha Rouva"

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    L is for V. Lindholmin puusepäntehdas or V. Lindholm Carpenter Works.

    As far as the Z goes it is still unknown who or where these stocks were made the last I have heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FINN ADDICT View Post
    L is for V. Lindholmin puusepäntehdas or V. Lindholm Carpenter Works.

    As far as the Z goes it is still unknown who or where these stocks were made the last I have heard.

    Hmmmmm...I seem to remember an entire post about this sometime last Fall...or at least, someone who linked to an older post about Finn stock markings...


    and


    I seem to remember both the 'L' and the 'Z' had locations of manufacture associated with them...


    ugh...I can't seem to make the search engine here work for me the way I want it to...chalk it up to cyber-ignorance, I guess...
    MY FIRST TEN MOSIN NAGANTS:
    1925 Izhevsk m1891/30 Ex-Dragoon- "Katalin"
    1939 Tula m1891/30 Lam. Stock- "Irena"
    1934 Tikka m27- "Tiina-Rakel"
    1938 Tula m1891/30 Finn Captured- "Nainen Sodassa"
    1955 Type 53 Carbine- "Thu Huong"
    1944 Tikka m1891/30- "Isoäiti"
    1942 VKT m1891- "Mummo"
    1916 Tula PTG m1891 Finn'd- "Petra"
    1967 No-Maker m39- "Tuuli"
    1926-8 Bohler-Stahl m24- "Vanha Rouva"

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    So, the 'S'?
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    Refering to the 'S' stamped next to the Sako gearwheel, of course.
    "Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by finloq View Post
    So, the 'S'?
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    Refering to the 'S' stamped next to the Sako gearwheel, of course.
    Got the 'S'...I found that that equals Sako...but, thanks for the feedback...really appreciate the response...


    ...but...

    I have a stock with a 'Z' in the gearwheel:...

    http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...ht=mosin+petra

    what does THAT mean???

    I KNOW I have seen a link here or somewhere in the last SIX months that shows exactly what mark went with which particular stock producer...


    c'mon...somebody has GOT to have this link!!...

    HELP!!!!
    MY FIRST TEN MOSIN NAGANTS:
    1925 Izhevsk m1891/30 Ex-Dragoon- "Katalin"
    1939 Tula m1891/30 Lam. Stock- "Irena"
    1934 Tikka m27- "Tiina-Rakel"
    1938 Tula m1891/30 Finn Captured- "Nainen Sodassa"
    1955 Type 53 Carbine- "Thu Huong"
    1944 Tikka m1891/30- "Isoäiti"
    1942 VKT m1891- "Mummo"
    1916 Tula PTG m1891 Finn'd- "Petra"
    1967 No-Maker m39- "Tuuli"
    1926-8 Bohler-Stahl m24- "Vanha Rouva"

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    From: http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/f..._nagantm39.asp

    Some of these sub-contracting firms were Sakara Oy utilizing the crossed cannon cartouche with an "S" inside. Other sub-contractors were V. Lindholmin Puusepäntehdas using the stock maker’s cartouche of an "L" in the circle. The final sub-contractor for the stock fabrication was done by Oy Ekwall Ab and is thought to have used the crossed cannon’s "Z"
    "Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"

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    Thank you finloq fore posting it. Many of the questions asked are indeed in the in depth articles on the main site www.mosinnagant.net
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    Quote Originally Posted by finloq View Post
    From: http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/f..._nagantm39.asp

    Some of these sub-contracting firms were Sakara Oy utilizing the crossed cannon cartouche with an "S" inside. Other sub-contractors were V. Lindholmin Puusepäntehdas using the stock maker’s cartouche of an "L" in the circle. The final sub-contractor for the stock fabrication was done by Oy Ekwall Ab and is thought to have used the crossed cannon’s "Z"

    Thanks finloq!!!!...I KNEW I read this info somewhere...I just couldn't find it!!!...

    REALLY appreciate the help!!!...that's EXACTLY what I was looking for!!!...
    MY FIRST TEN MOSIN NAGANTS:
    1925 Izhevsk m1891/30 Ex-Dragoon- "Katalin"
    1939 Tula m1891/30 Lam. Stock- "Irena"
    1934 Tikka m27- "Tiina-Rakel"
    1938 Tula m1891/30 Finn Captured- "Nainen Sodassa"
    1955 Type 53 Carbine- "Thu Huong"
    1944 Tikka m1891/30- "Isoäiti"
    1942 VKT m1891- "Mummo"
    1916 Tula PTG m1891 Finn'd- "Petra"
    1967 No-Maker m39- "Tuuli"
    1926-8 Bohler-Stahl m24- "Vanha Rouva"

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