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    I want to start reloading.Want to start with 7.62 nato and 8X57 mauser.What is everyones opinion on this setup?
    Lee 50th Anniversary Reloading Press Kit.Later on maybe I'd like to go with 7.7 Jap,7.5 Swiss and 7.62X54R.
    Thanks for an input.

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    When you buy that kit, you end up with the a less than wonderful scale. I recommend buying the press separately and then buying a decent scale which will run you (if you shop carefully like at Graf & Sons), about $60. There are 3 legs to this reloading stool: The Press, The Scale and You using the Reloading Book. You got these under control, you got a darn good reloading program ahead.

    Pls email me and I will help you on picking out stuff for your reloading program. By the way: there is nothing wrong with Lee rifle dies so you will be well served by them. The Lee trimmer for brass is slow but it works very well indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milprileb View Post
    When you buy that kit, you end up with the a less than wonderful scale. I recommend buying the press separately and then buying a decent scale which will run you (if you shop carefully like at Graf & Sons), about $60. There are 3 legs to this reloading stool: The Press, The Scale and You using the Reloading Book. You got these under control, you got a darn good reloading program ahead.

    Pls email me and I will help you on picking out stuff for your reloading program. By the way: there is nothing wrong with Lee rifle dies so you will be well served by them. The Lee trimmer for brass is slow but it works very well indeed.
    Thanks.There seems to be a good variety of electronic scales out there.I'll get in touch when I get the kit.

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    I use a Lee press, dies, trimmer but not their scale. I also use RCBS, press, dies, and their scale. Off hand I do not know what is in the kit and your link didn't work for me, but Lee makes good reloading equipement. The one thing I would get is a good scale, you always want to know how much powder is in the case. I really like the
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    gremlin,

    the two best things I ever got for reloading were my Lee hand primer press, and the Hornady auto measuring scale/powder dispenser. I love LEE dies.

    For bolt actions, neck sizing with a carbide die is super easy. The self dispensing scale is like half way to a progressive, expensive but for me it completely changed how much fun it was to reload.

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    As stated this thing about a great scale is supported by the gents who posted above.
    Like anything, you can spend as much as you want to chasing high end units. A basic
    beam balance scale (not Lee) is recommended. While I agree with Portholio that the digital
    dispensing scales are great... I am not sure they are wonderful for a beginner. I got the RCBS
    model and its great but, I got that 40 yrs after I started reloading. Granted they did not make them
    back 40 yrs ago but I did not suffer those 40 yrs with a balance beam scale at all. A plain jane decent
    digital scale (no dispenser) will cost you right around $100. Air currents and temperature can effect them but the old balance beam just weighs powder hell or high water.

    Before you leap to the digital dispenser type scales, perhaps get into reloading a bit further before you spend that kind of money. If you buy press , scale and tools right, you can enter the reloading hobby fairly inexpensively and that reloading gear will last a life time.

    As stated: not a thing wrong with Lee dies.

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    This is what I had in mind.

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    punch that in search box and get some reviews before you buy. Maybe board members will voice their views on this scale for you.

    Midway USA will have reviews for that item as well. I will paste them for you here:

    Todd of LINCOLN, NE
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    Date Posted: 3/12/2012
    From the time I put a case on the scale until the numbers stop changing it takes one second. The scale holds its reading steady and returns to zero. I checked it against a diamond scale and it is on the mark. My trickler sits next to the pan and is solid (after adding some sticky pads) (to the scale not the trickler). It doesn’t shut itself off while I answer the phone. I looked and I could not find MADE IN CHINA anywhere on the scale or box so im going to assume its made in NEBRASKA. Thanks Hornady!

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    Colorado of New Castle, CO
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    Scale was awesome for about 150 charges and then all of a sudden it starts wandering. Followed all the instructions, calibrate it and let the calibration weight sit on the scale. In 15 minutes, the 50gram weight is now 49.95 grams. My charges were wandering by up to 0.5 grains. Pretty dissapointed in the current electronic scale selection available for under $150.

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    Jay of Idaho Falls, ID
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    The new unit I received would not calibrate. I kept getting an ERROR message. Also, the design is poor, as there are only three legs and the scale wobbles if you press the buttons located near either edge of the unit. I returned the Hornady scale and bought RCBS.

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    Donald Butts of Seneca, SC
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    Recently bought this scale to improve my measure accuracy. Boy was I pleased. I have two other dig. scales and have not been satisfied. They would jump .1-.3 when weighing. Both were battery powered. I have used the Hornady L-n-L for 200 rounds and am extremely satisfied. The AC adapter makes it stable and also is very fast. Don't have to weight 10 seconds to stabilize.

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    Shane Randol of ROANOKE, IN
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    Date Posted: 3/2/2012
    Unfortunately, mine is bad out of the box. ERROR when trying to calibrate. Guess I won't be using any time soon. 3rd defective firearm industry product in two weeks. Note to self, don't get rid of old beam scale. I'm sure this will be taken care of, just out for two weeks.

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    TODD RIFE of OREM, UT
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    Date Posted: 2/20/2012
    This thing is Awesome! Well worth the extra $40 to upgrade from one of the many little ones there are on the market. Super accurate. Easy to use and doesn't take up too much space on the bench! money well spent!

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    Morgan Massens of Fallbrook, CA
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    Date Posted: 2/9/2012
    My first powder scale and it works great. I was a little nervous at first because it would not zero out properly, but I read the instructions and it turns out you need to let it warm up for a few minutes and then calibrate it. After that it is very accurate. Like all the others I disliked the fact that it only has three feet, so I made a couple extra of my own for stability.

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    Jesse Martin of Florence, AL
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    Date Posted: 1/30/2012
    Awesome scale. Looks good and performs very well. Simple and easy to use.

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    Jeff Railsback of Vancouver, wa
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    Date Posted: 1/12/2012
    Like a previous review said, the scale won't calibrate. I'm sure when it works properly it will do the job just fine. I'll update the review when Hornady fixes the scale or sends a new one.

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    Derek Scammon of Honolulu, HI
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    Date Posted: 1/11/2012
    This scale seems like a good one to me. The calibration is simple and fast, and the consistency is good. The three feet do seem strange, but if you push straight down on the buttons instead of pushing perpendicular to the button, it doesn't wobble. The accuracy is as stated, within a tenth of a grain. I weighed the 50-gram cal weight and it was 771.6 grains seven times out of ten, and 771.5 the other three. As another reviewer stated, if you're shooting 1,000-yard benchrest this might not be quite accurate enough for you, but then again, if you're into that level of precision, you're not reading the reviews for this scale anyway... I would highly recommend this product to a friend.

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    JAMES STEWART of Atchison, KS
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    Date Posted: 1/10/2012
    I bought this to replace my lee beam scale that I knocked off my bench and broke and this scale works great, is easy to use and makes my loading much faster by not having to wait for a beam to balance I told a friend of mine about it and he ordered one from midway to after he looked at mine.

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    Joel Austin of Hickory, NC
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    Date Posted: 12/2/2011
    This thing is great! The only problem is if you leave it on for a couple of hrs. you will have to recalibrate. But all in all pretty accurate and for the money for an electronic scale you can't beat it.

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    Wayne Jess of Jacksonville, FL
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    Date Posted: 9/20/2011
    Scale will not calibrate, they say they will fix, in the mean time no reloading for 2 weeks..I should have known better, comments on the internet pointed to this problem for quite a few people.

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    Brian S of Dublin, CA
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    Date Posted: 7/15/2011
    Update to my original review since I can add/edit that. Sent my original scale to Hornady (they paid shipping) and about 2 weeks later I received a working scale that calibrates exactly as the directions state. Happy camper on both the product and manufacturer side. Hornady made it right and I'm a big fan of the scale. Pleasure to work with, at both the product and manufacturer level. Good job Hornady.

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    S M of Sacramento, CA
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    Date Posted: 6/28/2011
    This is a good scale for the price. Weighing the same powder charge 10 times went from 22.9 to 23.1. Flat solid table, no static, wind, or anything else. Chargemaster 23.0 all ten times. Not quite as accurate as my Chargemaster, but close, and also half the price. Powder pan came with dents in it, that I had to lightly hammer to flatten. Also, like another reviewer stated, it only has three feet. Two in front and one in back. Every time you hit the buttons it tips a little...What were they thinking!?? Made a trip to ACE to fix that. Would be a good scale for blaster ammo, Hunting or brass/misc. Long range or bench rest guys might want to look elsewhere.

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    Dick Leemon of Orlando, FL
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    Date Posted: 6/13/2011
    Loaded over 300 rounds of 8mm and 500 12 ga shotshells. No issues. The unit is within 0.1 grn, comparing against test weights and my old RCBS 502. I can finally weigh over 500 grns for my shot loads with my scale. Large LCD is good for my senior eyes. Goodbye beam scale...!!

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    Sarah Kenworth of Daly, CA
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    Date Posted: 6/9/2011
    I love mine. After using a beam scale for years, I finally got an electronic scale. This unit matches readings with my Lyman 500 scale and my friend's Pact scale. Test weights check out within 0.1grain. I weigh bullets, powder, slugs, shot, even my jewels with this unit. Works great. . Get one now before they raise the price. Nice work Hornady!!

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    Rod Nicolette of Fallston, MD
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    Date Posted: 6/6/2011
    Unlike the previous reviewer, mine seemed to work just fine. I followed the directions that came with the unit and all went well. The only thing I don't like is, the base has 3 feet instead of 4. I can't figure out why they designed it like that. The single foot is at the back of the scale. When you push buttons the scale rocks as a result. Weird design decision. If you use the clear plastic cover when zeroing and weighing things it works best. The scale seems pretty consistent and is within the rated tolerance. So far it seems worth the money. (just wish it had four feet)

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    Jake Sonner of Miami, FL
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    Date Posted: 6/6/2011
    Mine works well for me. I can weigh with or without the pan, and get the same results. I compared this scale with my old RCBS 505. Every test checked out. I also weigh shot loads in this scale for my shotshells, and also no issues. This is Keeper....recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gremlin1945 View Post
    I want to start reloading.Want to start with 7.62 nato and 8X57 mauser.What is everyones opinion on this setup?
    Lee 50th Anniversary Reloading Press Kit.Later on maybe I'd like to go with 7.7 Jap,7.5 Swiss and 7.62X54R.
    Thanks for an input.

    Ed F.
    Ed,
    Here is a place that has good prices on Lee items. I have used them with good results.... It is just one of several that are out there.
    http://fsreloading.com/home.php?

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    The RCBS electronic scale (or better yet, the combo scale & powder dispenser) is the one all other manufacturers are trying to equal, and the one that a lot of folks wish they would have bought. I got mine last year & wish I would have gotten the combo years ago.

    All scales wil wander a little, but are most stable when turned on and left about 30-60 min to warm up and stabilize. My RCBS maintains zero quite nicely, nevertheless I re calibrate it every 100 or so loads measured & also check random samples of charged cases to ensure maximum uniformity.

    Always keep in mind that zero can wander if there are ambient air currents (when the A/C or heat kicks on) and also, just because the kitchen table seems solid, it's a good idea to check it for level and avoid leaning on any work surface where your scale is in use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmauser View Post
    Ed,
    Here is a place that has good prices on Lee items. I have used them with good results.... It is just one of several that are out there.
    http://fsreloading.com/home.php?
    I just ordered the kit.Very reasonable pricing.Thanks.Now all the other stuff will sure swell the total price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZshooter View Post
    The RCBS electronic scale (or better yet, the combo scale & powder dispenser) is the one all other manufacturers are trying to equal, and the one that a lot of folks wish they would have bought. I got mine last year & wish I would have gotten the combo years ago.

    All scales wil wander a little, but are most stable when turned on and left about 30-60 min to warm up and stabilize. My RCBS maintains zero quite nicely, nevertheless I re calibrate it every 100 or so loads measured & also check random samples of charged cases to ensure maximum uniformity.

    Always keep in mind that zero can wander if there are ambient air currents (when the A/C or heat kicks on) and also, just because the kitchen table seems solid, it's a good idea to check it for level and avoid leaning on any work surface where your scale is in use.
    Thanks.I'll be working in a corner of my finished bsmt.It's pretty much constant 64-68 degrees year round.Not good in winter but very comfortable in the warmer months.

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    The 50th Anniversary Reloadiing Kit from Lee is a good choice. The Lee Safety Powder Scale is not the best, but it works well once you take the time to learn how to use it properly. It can be a little tedious in it's set up, and switching from one charge weight to another. But it works. I used one for years with good results.
    Air currents, like when your AC kicks on, can effect a balance beam scale also. Probably more so than a digital.
    Two other additions I would look at would be the Lee handpress and the Lee Powder Measure Kit. I use both for general loading. Can completly load a cartridge with the Lee Hand Press alone.
    The Lee kit does not come with a loading manual. Do you have one? You can get loadiing data for your particular calibers online from most powder manufactures. But you really need at least two good manuals to cross referrence data.
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    When you get tired of that Lee scale (like I did), you can get a Dillon Eliminator or the Redding #2 for less than $100.
    I have the Dillon and like it, but I may pick up the Redding as an extra scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gremlin1945 View Post
    I want to start reloading.Want to start with 7.62 nato and 8X57 mauser.What is everyones opinion on this setup?
    Lee 50th Anniversary Reloading Press Kit.Later on maybe I'd like to go with 7.7 Jap,7.5 Swiss and 7.62X54R.
    Thanks for an input.

    Ed F.
    I do not like the kits. They have sorta what you need, but you can get a better setup if you buy the pieces one at a time after getting some reviews/advice on each piece. Also, keep an eye on the refurbished area of the LEE web site, they often have bargain items that have been rebuilt to new standards yet cost much less. You may want to avoid any of the lee aluminum based presses and go for a steel one. The aluminum ones have a reputation for wearing out after a while, I do not have personal experience with that as I bought a steel one. My steel one has made several thousand rounds over the past year and a half or so with no issues; this includes forcing brass into the dies to reshape it (caliber change, making brass for one gun from another type, using easily 3-4 times the force that would be used normally).

    the big thing about the kits is that you will end up replacing the stuff over time. Best to just get what you wanted the first go?

    Also, go get your primers NOW. The press can wait. The powder can wait. The dies can wait. Between now and the middle of next year, primers are likely to be scarce if you are in the USA or otherwise affected by the ammo panic of election year.

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    dittos on what all of the other posters said.. I'm relatively new to reloading(since 1996), but I credit my electronic scale to keeping me out of trouble on those cartridges which can be over/double charged.I do have a manual scale, but I've never used it.

    As Milprileb said, they are susceptible to variations.At one time my son was living quite close to a radio tower, and his scale wouldn't work until he moved !!!! Took us quite a while to figure that one out !!
    Anyone ever hear of a Farraday cage?

    I'm also going to do my pitch for casting your own bullets here.To my way of thinking one doesn't make sense without the other given current bullet prices...My .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by swabbie View Post
    Anyone ever hear of a Farraday cage?
    You know, just in case the SHTF, it's really not a bad idea to EMP proof your electric reloading scale

    Yeah, a full blown scale/dispenser might be over kill right now. Having a charge dispenser, electronic balance, and powder trickler will still be real fast, accurate and convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gremlin1945 View Post
    I just ordered the kit.Very reasonable pricing.Thanks.Now all the other stuff will sure swell the total price.
    Gremlin,

    When I started out... I just could not get the beam scale to work for me. I got a set of those yellow Lee Powder Measure Kit dippers and a cheap $25 digital scale. I used those for about 2 years as I piddled around getting comfortable making accurate bolt action rifle loads. Then I got the RCBS electronic combo scale...

    Go slow and have fun rolling/making ur own... ... and buy the best you can afford... I went a little at a time... I am still trying stuff out...

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    Thanks again to everybody for the ideas and suggestions.

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    Go slow and have fun rolling/making ur own... ... and buy the best you can afford... I went a little at a time..

    The above is sage advice. Just add a good reloading book to the buy list and a set of digital calipers as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milprileb View Post
    Just add a good reloading book to the buy list and a set of digital calipers as well.
    +1 there, except I recommend getting a couple of different books.

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    I have Lee's book.Going to a show this weekend and see if there's any books there for a reasonable price.So far all the ones I've picked up and looked at were going for list price.I'll check out Amazon.com also.

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    I started out with a Lee turret press and still use it.I also use my Dillon RL-550B for loading.It will take you some time to acquire reloading equipment over the years.Invest in a quality dial caliper I have a Mitutoyo which is a well made one.Also buy some cartridge gages of whatever caliber you shoot they allow a check of the loaded rounds before hand.Reloading manuals are needed and you will find the newer ones are more conservative as than the older ones.Good luck and enjoy your reloading.

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    I would also look for the book "abc's of reloading". A good book that tells you how to do pretty much anything you plan on loading. No load data, just the steps to reloading.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...of%2Caps%2C136

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    I avoid Lee, with a very small number of exceptions. (Their powder dipper kit is very handy at times.)

    Do yourself a favor and start with RCBS. You'll buy their gear eventually; might as well just start out with it. Nobody ever questions RCBS quality and for good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefinfin View Post
    I would also look for the book "abc's of reloading". A good book that tells you how to do pretty much anything you plan on loading. No load data, just the steps to reloading.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...of%2Caps%2C136



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Expert View Post
    I avoid Lee, with a very small number of exceptions. (Their powder dipper kit is very handy at times.)

    Do yourself a favor and start with RCBS. You'll buy their gear eventually; might as well just start out with it. Nobody ever questions RCBS quality and for good reason.

    Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit:

    I already have the Lee kit on the way.I think it will work for me.

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    Don't forget Lee case length trimmers, flash hole deburring tools, primer pocket cleaners, and some way to clean your cases. I got an old used RCBS JR2 press and bought a lot of other things with the money. A powder measure will get you close fast, but still need powder measure and balance to finish it right. It goes on and on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gremlin1945 View Post
    I already have the Lee kit on the way.I think it will work for me.
    No doubt that it will. Welcome to the hobby!

    BTW: used Rock Chucker presses are available from various sources for really cheap (I've seen offered at gunshows for as low as $20). I have never seen a Rock Chucker that was worn out, so these make for great bargains when you want to buy another press for various tasks.
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    Keep your cell phone, wireless laptops and ipads away from your electronic scale when you are using it. These type devices can cause your electronic scale to read incorrectly. I also recommend getting a good beam scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89blazin View Post
    Keep your cell phone, wireless laptops and ipads away from your electronic scale when you are using it. These type devices can cause your electronic scale to read incorrectly. I also recommend getting a good beam scale.
    I'll be using this in the basement.Cell phone the only thing that could be a problem if I forget to take it off my belt.Thanks for the heads up.

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    I'm also trying to get into reloading for a few of the "cheap" military rifles I got. (Yeah $100 rifle. And then a gunsmith check. And then you have to get reloading equipment. And then hazmat shipping fees.) Anyways when you say affordable or cheap what are we talking about here? Are we saying $300? Or are we saying $1,200?

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    Me myself ,I'm around $200 now with the latest purchase of a Lee Zip trimmer,2 xtra quick releases for dies and a few other items.All I need now is powder,bullets and primers.Then it's class time.BTW I'm starting with 7.62X51 for my "soft steel" Spanish 1916.

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