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    Default Medusa Model 47

    Thought you guys might like to see this... I traded a Rem 870 for it...

    They seem as rare as the mythical creature its named after...

    Its a Medusa M47.. It chambers just about everything in the .38/.357/9mm calibers..

    9x17mm, .380 ACP, Browning Short, Corto, Kurz, Kratak
    9x18mm Ultra
    9x18mm Police
    9x19mm Parabellum, Luger, NATO
    9x20mm Browning Long
    9x21 IMI,
    9x23mm Largo, Bayard Long
    9x23mm Steyr,
    9x23mm Win Mag,
    9x25mm, Mauser, Export
    9mm Glisenti,
    9mm Rimmed,
    .38 Auto, .38 ACP, 9x23mmSR
    .38 Super Auto, Colt Super, 9x23mmSR +P
    .38 Short Colt,
    .38 Long Colt,
    .38 Mid-Range,
    .38 S&W, .38 S&W Corto, .380 Rimmed
    .38 Special, 9x29mmR
    .357 Magnum, 9x33mmR
    .356 TSW,
    Im unsure about.. 9x29 WinMag, and .38 AMU..


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    Wow that actually looks like a well used Medusa with a lot of finish wear... or is that an illusion?

    Most owners of these things keep them in velvet lined cradles

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    i was wondering what happened to those things. I wanted one when i first saw it like 15 years ago. now that I have a little cash to spend, I never see them. Sad to hear they are rare and people don't shoot them, that means if i do run into one it'll probably be way too much.

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    When I got it, the guy really didnt know what it was. It was just a funny looking .38 to him.

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    I'm afraid I don't understand... how can it chamber rounds that are that different?

    And if it worked, why didn't other manufacturers pick this idea up and run with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIMO1 View Post
    I'm afraid I don't understand... how can it chamber rounds that are that different?

    And if it worked, why didn't other manufacturers pick this idea up and run with it?
    they have a fair explanation of how it works here. In short, a genius designed it (maybe 2 geniuses).

    http://airbornecombatengineer.typepa..._revolver.html

    According to that article, Colt toyed with the idea, but it ultimately died due to political pressure. If memory serves, it didn't exactly shoot all of those rounds accurately, but they all worked fine mechanically.

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    Rimmed rounds fit just like they do in any other revolver, and theres a little "finger" that holds the rimless ones.

    Everything ive shot, has been pretty accurate.. I do have a problem with American made 9mm's fitting, Foreign 9mm fits good though... American made 9mm seems to have more of a taper at the base..

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    Awesome revolver, too bad they stopped making them.
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    I've read reports that 357 and 38+p may damage the cylinder mechanism, and that 380s are not held reliably. There's one on Gunbroker for $2800...Navy Seal model(?). But, most I've seen are between $500 and $900.
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    There's a guy on YouTube that shoots .32 ACP in his, but that makes absolutely no sense to me.

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    In Gary Reeders version of it called the skorpion, that was the case, people were ignoring his warnings not to shoot the +p and .357 rounds..

    Actually you can shoot the .32 ACP, it just wont be as accurate...
    From the Inventor himself:
    In a pinch you can shoot .351 SL, 30 carbine, 32, 32 Mag, and even 22 Jet. I wish Winchester had continued the 9mm WinMag. It was super hot and accurate. Don't be afraid to put any of the recommended rounds through it. We had these cylinders proof tested @ 86,000 psi and yield strength is about 220,000 psi. The Navy Seals shoot them under water. Do not try this with a Colt, Smith, Korth, Ruger, Glock, or any other current production firearm. IT WILL BLOW UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIMO1 View Post
    I'm afraid I don't understand... how can it chamber rounds that are that different?

    And if it worked, why didn't other manufacturers pick this idea up and run with it?
    Actually Colt was going to make a version called the Survivor, But decided that they wanted to only make their "classic" models.. Thats what killed the Medusa, J Phillips spent tons of money retooling to build the Colt model, and when Colt backed out, he had no more money to make Medusa's any more...

    Heres the Colt Survivor:
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    I was sent a copy of the sales brochure, thought I would share, its kinda neat...
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    Given the differnces in case body diameter amongst those rounds, the charge holes are necessarily grossly over-sized for many of them. I can just imagine what the fired cases would look like.
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    Nope, just one, but thanks for the compliment.

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    Trez, I'm still looking for an owner's manual.

    Finally got started:

    htttp://medusa47.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwphillips2 View Post
    Trez, I'm still looking for an owner's manual.

    Finally got started:

    htttp://medusa47.com
    Awesome JW!!! As you can tell I love your revolver..

    Find anything on the Wilderness Explorer yet??.. I still havent seen one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Given the differnces in case body diameter amongst those rounds, the charge holes are necessarily grossly over-sized for many of them. I can just imagine what the fired cases would look like.
    That occurred to me, as survivalists like the idea of keeping their brass for reuse, as did the question of what a case failure would look like in these things.

    But to me, the reason they didn't sell like hotcakes is simply that when you take that long list of cartridges and cross off the ones most wil never see outside of a gunshow or mail order catalog, you are left with, what? .380 maybe, 9mm Luger, .38 Special and .357 Magnum. Except that you may not, apparently, want to shoot .357 Magnum in it, either. Seems a better idea to have a .45ACP and a .44 Mag, and stock up on lots of ammo for those zombies.

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    Good point: the gun geeks who designed it got all excited and listed every single 9mm ever made, when joe gunshooter will likely never see 4/5 of those rounds, much less heard of them.

    Poorly marketed, very original product.

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    Mr. JWP...
    I found your post the other day and just had to join this forum to tell you how much I appreciate your Medusa. I have been looking to get my hands on one for the last 10 years. Last week, I stumbled onto one in a Houston gun shop I visit every now and then. There it was..... sitting in the display case. Just like the mythology, I froze in my tracks as soon as I saw it. I knew immediately what is was, but could not believe my eyes. I had to look at the description card to bring me back to reality. It appears to be mint condition. Still has white grease in some of the crevasses.
    To make it even better, it appears that I have purchased it from the very technician that built it. Came with a signed letter from your past CEO, (Roger) on company letterhead, transferring that serial number to that technician. This has been almost too good to be true. But, I do have the gun in my hands, so I know that much is real.
    If you ever have the time or inclination, I would cherish an interview with you on your astonishing creation. While I have more expensive guns in my collection, your Medusa is now the “Centerpiece”. It is far and away the most rare and legendary of everything I own. I feel like I can now die a truly happy gun nut. The only thing left that could top that……. is talking with you personally.

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    They use one in the net force books if anyone reads those. Used to be a tom clancy series but he passed it to other authors a few books ago and changed many of the characters. I thought the description was artistic license, seems they had it pretty close though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnin View Post
    They use one in the net force books if anyone reads those. Used to be a tom clancy series but he passed it to other authors a few books ago and changed many of the characters. I thought the description was artistic license, seems they had it pretty close though.
    It was also the villain's personal weapon in "The Da Vinci Code". The small 5-shot Medusa was sent to Ron Howard and used in the movie. It's the one Colt choked on when they wussed-out to the Clintons in 1999. The orders from the SHOT Show (25,000) is still the largest order for any Colt product! The writer for Net Force owns a Medusa 47. still working on the website

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    Different bullet diameters .355 to .361, and case lengths would hurt accuracy and make reloads a problem but I guess the fiction writers didn't care about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjk308 View Post
    Different bullet diameters .355 to .361, and case lengths would hurt accuracy and make reloads a problem but I guess the fiction writers didn't care about that.
    And never have. Consider Ian Fleming and his rearming of James Bond - on the person piece a Walther PP or PPK instead of a Beretta .25 with a "sawn barrel" and grips replaced with a tape wrapping. Seems the Walther has a "delivery like a brick through a plate glass window" (pretty close to the original text). Well, obviously it doesn't, in .32 or .380, but would be a more powerful alternative to the .25, if harder to conceal. And the car gun became a .38 S&W snubbie instead of a Colt SAA in .45. Needed more punch, you see...
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    Default Late but may be useful model 47

    My brother and i have to the best of our research manufactured and duplicated most rounds on the list and fired them in our 2 model 47s. Thank you John Taffin for data on the 9 win mag which Winchester was at a loss to provide, Use and load from ' Cartridges of the World' at your own risk.
    First do not fire 380 acp. will it fire? yes but shreds cases. almost all other case are reloadable. For some odd reason 9x23 would fire and function in one but not the other model 47 and a new cylinder did not change this.
    Second- the 38 S&W is a .360 bullet so is not in the same class as the .355 to 357 rounds listed. Will not fit the gun.
    Every round tested fired accurately. The most accurate 9mm Lugar I have ever seen.
    Extraction of rimless cases was hmmm sometimes troublesome and we usual use a dowel on those. Firing was flawless with all rounds but the 380 and 9x23 as mentioned above.
    I also like the 327 fed mag which shoots most 32's including the 32 ACP.
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