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  1. #1
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    Default Did U.S. Military Train With .22LR in 1930?

    Without realizing it, I purchased a box of .22LR ammo from the early 1930's, and the Dunn source says it's marked for U.S. military use.

    Got me to thinking.

    Did the U.S. military use a .22LR firearm in training during that era?
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    Others can tell you more, I'm sure, but I know that the military has been using, or experimenting with the use of .22lr since the Krag rifle.

    In the '30's, it was the M1922 Springfield.

    Mike

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    Default M1922, M2...

    The M1922 series (including the M2) were basically service rifles built in the Model 1903 Springfield "sporter" configuration at the Springfield Armory in .22 caliber. Way over-engineered for what they were used for. But everyone who owns one considers it a prize piece in their collection! Here is a picture of my M2 the day I got it (and before it got a good cleaning). I later traded stocks for a more "correct" M2 stock that also matched the overall condition of the metal better than this earlier one. There is a really nice one for sale locally at $1500. Same dealer has a sportered 96 Krag he also wants $1500 for!

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    Yes, most definitely. I believe the Remington 513T, the Stevens 416 and at least 3 models of the Springfield M1922 were manufactured prior to WWII. Regards, Rick.

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    When I was in the Navy .22 rifles

    were used regularly as well as ( in

    my case ) M 14's . From what I've

    read , the U S Army consisted of

    30,000 strong in 1930 .



    FIVESHOT

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    The use of 22 RF cartridges for US military dates back to the 1880s. Until the introduction of the M1922 rifle, the 22 cartridges were utilized with special cartridge holders such as the Hoffer-Thompson.

    During WWII the 22 was even utilized in specially modified machine guns, using belted cartridge holders.

    There was a FMJ 22LR cartridge adopted in 1945.

    The 22 ammunition was purchased from commercial manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Meketa View Post
    Until the introduction of the M1922 rifle, the 22 cartridges were utilized with special cartridge holders such as the Hoffer-Thompson.
    Not completely sure, but I think I remember reading that Springfield Armory made some .22 barrels for the Krag that were mounted and issued for training. Can anyone confirm this?

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    About 800 M1898 Gallery Rifles in 22 RF were made. There was also an experimental gallery rifle that used a Hoffer-Thompson type cartridge holder but it never got past the experimental stage and was soon replaced by the '03 gallery rifle. There was also an experimental Krag rifle that used a full size case necked to 22 caliber but it was very short lived.
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