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    Default 7.62x25 Tokarev Loads

    I went out and tested some loads I made up. Gun: Romanian 1953 TTC, Case: Starline, Primer: Remington Small Pistol, Powder: Accurate Arms #7, Bullet Hornady XTP 86gr

    Air Temp: 101, All groups were the average of 5 shots, and the chrono was 10-12 feet from the muzzle.

    1) 8.0 grains: Average Vel: 1084, ES: 87, SD: 45
    2) 8.5 grains: Average Vel: 1194, ES:176, SD: 78
    3) 8.8 grains: Average Vel: 1266, ES:000, SD: 45
    4) 9.1 grains: Average Vel: 1278, ES: 143, SD: 58
    5) 9.4 grains: Average Vel: 1293, ES: 127, SD: 59
    6) 9.7 grains: Average Vel: 1413, ES: 90, SD: 35
    7) 10.0 grains: Average Vel: 1408, ES: 46, SD: 19

    I mainly used the data from the Sierra Manual even though the bullet their data specifies is the Sierra 85 grain. I think load #7 is the one I'll make my production rounds out of. I didn't shoot for groups, just for the velocity and data.

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    I wonder how many others are reloading the 7.62X25? I am starting to accumulate reloadable brass and lead bullets for this task. Good post!

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    I recently started reloading 7.63X25 for my Broomhandle. I have found that the cut down .223 cases I use in my Broom will not always chamber in my CZ52, and will NOT chamber in my TT33 (the case necks made from metal that far back on the parent case are just a bit too thick, and I just am not interested enough in the whole deal to turn the necks).

    The 7.63 that I load in my Privi cases chamber just fine in everything, so I guess you could say that other than they are downloaded just a bit, I DO reload 7.62X25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raymo7521 View Post
    I went out and tested some loads I made up. Gun: Romanian 1953 TTC, Case: Starline, Primer: Remington Small Pistol, Powder: Accurate Arms #7, Bullet Hornady XTP 86gr

    Air Temp: 101, All groups were the average of 5 shots, and the chrono was 10-12 feet from the muzzle.

    1) 8.0 grains: Average Vel: 1084, ES: 87, SD: 45
    2) 8.5 grains: Average Vel: 1194, ES:176, SD: 78
    3) 8.8 grains: Average Vel: 1266, ES:000, SD: 45
    4) 9.1 grains: Average Vel: 1278, ES: 143, SD: 58
    5) 9.4 grains: Average Vel: 1293, ES: 127, SD: 59
    6) 9.7 grains: Average Vel: 1413, ES: 90, SD: 35
    7) 10.0 grains: Average Vel: 1408, ES: 46, SD: 19

    I mainly used the data from the Sierra Manual even though the bullet their data specifies is the Sierra 85 grain. I think load #7 is the one I'll make my production rounds out of. I didn't shoot for groups, just for the velocity and data.
    Before you totally settle on a load, I think it would behoove you to find out where those loads print in relation to your sights. You aren't going to be all that happy if the pet load you settled on (and end up loading up a few hundred rounds of) ends up grouping 2 feet low on the target.

    My usual course of action is to vary the loading until I get the point of impact up around where the sights point, and then call THAT my load.

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    Ronbo6,
    You are right. What I think I'll do is make about 10 rounds of load 7, and shoot a few groups to see where and how things group. I also have a pps 43c, which I also need to feed, so I may load 20 rounds and see where each puts them.

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    I was looking for load data and can't find anyone with current data. Of all the companies that use to publish data, they don't show anything now. I am sure it has to do with the CZ pressure deal.
    Is it safe to use the old data in my Russian TT33, M57 and PPs43 rifle?

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    I just load to 7.63 Mauser specs and don't worry too much about it. That way, I can take my Broomhandle, TT33, and CZ52 all to the range together, and not worry too much about screwing anything up.

    Currently I am burning through a bunch I loaded up using some 100 grain Speer and Hornady half-jacket bullets I have had laying around for years in front of 5.3 grains of Unique. All three pistols function just fine with this load.

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    I pour cast bullets for mine and use 7 grains of AA7. Shoots 3 to 4 inches at 25 yards. Not quite as accurate as factory PRVI.
    Not really looking for anything...

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    With the price of surplus 7.62x25 tripling I am thinking of selling off my surplus supply and start reloading.
    Anyone have a cost per round? How many times can you reload cases? Do the cases split like surplus loads and the Hornady 30 Mauser cases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by landtoy80 View Post
    With the price of surplus 7.62x25 tripling I am thinking of selling off my surplus supply and start reloading.
    Anyone have a cost per round? How many times can you reload cases? Do the cases split like surplus loads and the Hornady 30 Mauser cases?
    I just picked up a few hundred rounds of clean 1980's manufacture Czech 7.62X25 for about 18 cents a round at a gun show today. I can barely reload if I use jacketed bullets for that.

    For cases, I have started to use cut down 5.56X45 cases in my Broomhandle, and MOST of them will fit in my CZ52. This assures me almost a lifetime supply of cases, as I mostly cut down the 5.56 cases I have that get neck cracks. Even if you CAN'T get 25 loads out of them, who cares? They are cheap and readily available.

    So far, I only have a couple of reloads through my Privi 7.63X25 cases, so I can't tell you what their case life is like yet.

    You CAN use cut down .223 in a Tok, but I fear you are going to need to turn the necks to do it. NONE of my cut down 5.56 cases go in my 1943. Russian TT33.

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    From what I have read about 5.56 cases to 7.62x25 you need to either ream out or turn the neck. There is a YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhG08yQGD38showing how to convert and it doesn't look to hard.

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