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Sticky: Survey On MAS 44,49 and 49/56 rifles DMinFla Views 11,304
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Hi there Goose52 had a great idea on the Hakim site about starting a survey on the MAS 44,49 and 49/56 rifles so i am going to start one here now so if you have one of those rifles please post your info here or e-mail me with it thanks.Now as this is my first survey i am going to make it easy on everyone here including me
MAS 1944 rifles
Ser#
Is it painted black or parkerized
MAS 1949 French rifles
Ser#
Does it have the grenade launcher on it still
MAS 1949 Syria inport rifles
Ser#
MAS 1949/56 rifles
Ser#
Does it have a open flash hider or a muzzle break on it
Is the Ser# vertical or horizontal
Full ser # would be great but if you don't want to post it here you can e-mail me with it if you want to.I will not keep any info on who sent it just the info on the rifles and who knows we may learn somthing new thanks.DMinFla
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Edited by - DMinFla on 03/16/2005 5:43:23 PM
Here is a list of all MAS Rifle Info posted in this "string" as of 7/30/06
And serial numbers that I have seen on the Internet and have pics of the receivers
I will update list as more Rifle info is posted.....
Rearsenal Dated are posted in [Brackets]
GL = Grenade Launcher
MAS 44
F 4 Painted Black
F 35 Painted Black
F 445 Painted Black
F 48x Black Enamel
F 613 Painted Black
F 63X Black enamel
F 975 Painted Black
F 1080 Black Painted
F 1166 Paint/Park.
F 1240 Black Painted
F 143X black enamel
F 1618 Painted Black
F 1926 Paint/Park / Anchor on butt plate
F 2191 Parkerized
F 3250 Parkerized
F 3339 Parkerized
F 3418 Parkerized
F 3474 Parkerized
F 3633 Parkerized
F 3879 Parkerized
F 3937 - parked - unknown barrel date
F 4673 Parkerized
F 477X
F 4857 Parkerized
F 5008 Parkerized
F 5098 Parkerized
F 5325 Parkerized
F 5537 Painted Black
F 5895 Parkerized
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MAS 49
F 3879
F 6910 - GL - horizontal serial - barrel MAS-1962-SEY - [P69]
F 803x
F 14970 (horizontal), barrel Mas-1953, GL , parkerized
F 193XX w/grenade launcher
F 2364x
F 2415x
F 25554 GL park'd
F 33792 Syrian
F 36483 Syrian parked
F 3732x Syrian
F 37383 Syrian
F 38586 Syrian Matching Numbers
F 39732 Syrian / Spike bayonet
F 39xxx Syrian 1953
F 68xx Park launcher Horizontal # (This one is sniper grade with white bore and fitted stock)
F 10xxx " " "
F 15xxx " " "
F 25xxx " " "
F 35xxx " " "
F 48xxx " " Vertical #
F 58666 Paint No Launch. "
F 79079 Park Launcher "
F 790xx " " "
F 32360 -Barrel marked MAS 1962 - SEB
F 33072 Syrian
F 33642- Syrian GL Barrel-MAS-1953-FY-Parkerized
F 33792
F 34310 Parked French No Grenade Launcher Horizontal
F 35873
F 37269
F 37477 Syrian Barrel marked MAS 1953 - FYc
F 37596
F 378XX Syrian
F 38725 Syrian
F 51315
F 52581
F 56014
F 59790 w/o GL park'd, vertical number
F 65839 Has grenade launcher
F 69917 Parked French With Grenade Launcher Vertical
F 74344
F 75197 Vertical Number ..like 49/56's
F 77530
G Series
G 865 Park second type bbl and flash hider
G 2457 [P72]
G 2778 (vertical) with muzzle brake and grenade launcher [P76]
G 3656 vertical cal 7,62 marked 308
G 458x Vertical # Rebuild [P-71] Cal .308 Muzzle Break
G 7459 Vertical Flash Hider
G 9282 - Muzzle break - Vert Barrel marked MAS-1958 - SEb
G 12875
G 13724 Flash Hider-Vertical Barrel-MAS-1972-CSJ-Parkerized-(.308)
G 14018 [P84]
G 15939 Converted .308 [ P78]
G 16215 [P77] [ P92]
G 17424 [P87]
G 1781x Vertical # Rebuild [P-70] [P-77] Flash Hider
G 18962 [P78]
G 20380 Converted to .308 [ P67]
G 21709 (vertical), barrel Mas-1971, refurbished 1971, transformed MSE 1975.
G 21794
G 23748 This MAS has the Early Open Slot Flash Hider
G 26350 [P77] Restamp 7.62 / .308
G 26698, vertical serial #, and open flash hider, barrel MAS 1960 Mft, rearsenal P72
G 28093
G 30507 [P78]
G 32838 [P82]
G 350XX [P63]
G 35061
G 36553 [P78] Restamp 7.62 .308
G 37329 [P67]
G 37417 [P76] Converted to .308
G 38442 [P91]
G 39929
G 39707 [P78]
G 40673 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1978-MFn - [P83]
G 4075x Vertical # Rebuild [P-71] Flash Hider
G 41178 has Muzzle Break
G 42134 Converted to .308
G 42172 [P76]
G 42957
G 44475 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1966-SE-h - [P67]
G 45641
G 47805 vertical Has muzzle break
G 48035 [P86] Restamped 7.62 / .308
G 48880
G 50247 stamped vertical [ P71] [ P88] [ P92]
G 50773 (vertical), barrel Mas-1966, refurbished 1970.
G 51369 Vertical Flash Hider Wide Front Sight [P75]
G 51825 Converted to .308
G 525XX not refurbished
G 54680 [P85]
G 54986 Converted to .308
G 55160
G 55498
G 57415
G 57767, vertical on receiver.2 rebuild marks, [P72] and [P85]
G 59656 Vertical Flash Hider
G 63569
G 64094 [P69] .308
G 65761 [ P86]
G 71040 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1960-MFt - no rearsenal
G 79772
G 86713 Converted to .308 [P81]
G 87009 muzzle brake.
G 87246 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1982-LMNi - [P88][P92]
G 880XX not refurbished - like new - AR crown
G 89337
G 89430 [P76] Restamped 7.62 / .cal .308
G 90073 [P70] [ P84]
G 91372
G 93473 [P70] [P75]
G 97608 [P81]
G 98038 [P66]
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H Series
H 01598
H 06304 -Flash Hider-Vertical Rebuild [P82] Barrel-MAS-1975-LMNg-Parkerized
H 06596 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1961-AUb - no rearsenal
H 07513 Vertical Flash Hider [P77] [P86]
H 088XX modified MSE
H 10xxx Park second type bbl and flash hider
H 10416
H 10518 Parked French With Flash Hider Vertical
H 11387 Restamped 7.62 / .308
H 23379 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1981-LMNi - [P85]
Model 49/56 - converted to 7.62 / .308
H 11387 Converted to .308
H 1781*, stamped vertically Type 2 flash hider Barrel MAS 1962 Mff Rearsenal stamp: [P71]
H 17958
H 22338 [P78]
H 23187
H 26590 [P78]
H 3305x Vertical # No Rebuild Cal. 7.5 Flash Hider
H 34727 [P72] [P76]
H 38445
H 42029
H 42192
H 44441
H 67718
H 71736
H 73659
H 73907 (vertical), barrel Mas-1991, (cal 7.08) no refurbishing stamp
H 80915 [ P74]
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Goose52
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 12:08:17 AM
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Updated to add barrel and rearsenal data to Mle 49
MAS 44 # F 3937 - parked - unknown barrel date (don't have tool for band screws)
MAS 49 # F 6910 - French contract - Grenade launcher - horizontal serial - barrel MAS-1962-SEY - rearsenal P69
Goose
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larry408
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 12:55:48 PM
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MAS 49/56 Serial number G 54986 Converted to .308
Also have a MAS 36 L 16274 Converted to .308
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 2:26:48 PM
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Guys: here is a partial list....
Mle 1944:
F 1166 Paint/Park.
F 1240 "
F 1926 " Anchor on butt plate
F 3339 Park
F 3633 "
F 5098 " (Just sold)
Mle 49 Syrian
F 38586 All matched!
F 39xxx Not matched, but mint cond! these 2 are dated 1953
Mle 49 French
F 68xx Park launcher Horizontal # (This one is sniper grade with white bore and fitted stock)
F 10xxx " " "
F 15xxx " " "
F 25xxx " " "
F 35xxx " " "
F 48xxx " " Vertical #
F 58666 Paint No Launch. "
F 79079 Park Launcher "
F 790xx " " "
Mle 1949-56
F 465 Park All have the second type bbl and flash hider except F 465
G 865 "
H 10xxx " All of these are stamped vertically IIRC
This is from memory at work, so I could be off a little, I have examined or own all the guns listed above
Dale in Ala
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Thanks to Goose52 and Buddy i added some things to the survey. thanks for every one who added theirs to it so far.I am also adding mine here too.DMinFla
MAS 1944
Ser# F5537
Painted black
MAS 1949
Ser# F65839
Has grenade launcher
MAS 1949 Syria
Ser# F33072
MAS 1949/56
Ser# G47805 and is vertical
Has muzzle break
DMinFla
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Tembo
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Posted - 03/17/2005 : 01:59:16 AM
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MAS 44 F35 - painted black
MAS 49 F25554 - with GL park'd
MAS 49 F59790 - w/o GL park'd, vertical no.
USA
1337 Posts
Posted - 03/17/2005 : 11:52:12 PM
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When Century had the MAS 44s We saw three different finished weapons here.
Grey Park
Black Paint
Black Park......the black parkerized guns were the least common. Anyone else seen one of these???
vonmazur
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1762 Posts
Posted - 03/18/2005 : 11:41:12 AM
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I think the black looking park was "Stoving" a black carbon applied to the park to darken it, sometimes the varnish was worn off, so the park looked black. I have had one in the 80's......
Dale in Ala
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ammolab
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1337 Posts
Posted - 03/18/2005 : 5:53:36 PM
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Varnish worn off?? I have a Mint 44...nothing "worn off" and it looks like Maganeese Phosphate (black) parkerizing to me. Could just be VERY dark grey. It just is a striking different finish when you put it next to a grey Parked 44.
Tembo
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Posted - 03/19/2005 : 02:14:41 AM
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I've never seen a 44 with black parkerizing. Definitely like to see it. Could you post a picture?
Edited my response (3rd post of this thread) to add barrel date and rearsenal code.
Goose
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rogerbutthead
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313 Posts
Posted - 03/19/2005 : 7:18:49 PM
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Per your request on the other board. I bought this around 10 years ago - I have no idea what constitutes the difference between a Syrian and a French rifle. Appears painted black. I have no idea what the device near the front of it does - range finder for gl? - best guess - barrel attachment has #26 on it. No muzzle brake.
Rifle is marked EBF horizontally and F 77530 vertically. Rear of receiver marked on left in circle "MM" on right "D". Buttstock is mismatch number - F 37499. Scope is marked APX L806 OPL No 28.503 No markings noted on mount. (Did not take it off - this rig was put together by me 10+ years ago - I found the scope/mount/carrying case first and later the rifle)
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DMinFla
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rogerbutthead the best way to tell if it is a Syrian or French 49 is the Syrian has a bayonet and the French ones does not.BTW great rifle you got there.DMinFla
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Originally posted by rogerbutthead
Per your request on the other board. I bought this around 10 years ago - I have no idea what constitutes the difference between a Syrian and a French rifle. Appears painted black. I have no idea what the device near the front of it does - range finder for gl? - best guess - barrel attachment has #26 on it. No muzzle break.
Rifle is marked EBF horizontally and F 77530 vertically. Rear of receiver marked on left in circle "MM" on right "D". Buttstock is mismatch number - F 37499. Scope is marked APX L806 OPL No 28.503 No markings noted on mount. (Did not take it off)
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Posted - 03/20/2005 : 1:23:37 PM
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The device on the side is the aiming devise to launch grenade, moving the screw adjusts the depht of the grenade allowing to hit according to the distance that appears on the side marks.
the aiming device can take two different angles 45° and 74 ° if I remember correctly hence allowing full distance or half distance according to the selected angle.
such devices existed on M1 Garand but without depth adjustement of the rifle grenade and it was a add on device with a gas cut off.
shooting rifle grenade with a MAS was really accurate.
the device on 49/56 works with the same principle but much faster to use with its sliding depth adjustment ring and the aiming device allows for direct AT and AP/AV shooting.
HTH
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Posted - 03/20/2005 : 2:31:42 PM
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Here are my guns.
MAS Mle 1944 F445 Black
MAS Mle 1949 F36483 Parked Syrian
MAS Mle 1949 F34310 Parked French No Grenade Launcher Horizontal
MAS Mle 1949 F69917 Parked French With Grenade Launcher Vertical
MAS Mle 1949/56 H10518 Parked French With Flash Hider Vertical
Jeff
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rogerbutthead
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Posted - 03/20/2005 : 4:47:08 PM
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Went to go talk to an acquaintance with a MAS49 to see if he would give you his info. Ended up buying the rig. I guess its Syrian, #26 on barrel attachment, F 37596 on receiver and stock - scope is APX L806 SOM No11677. He states picked up the scope/mount/booklet/eyepiece all with the case. He bought the rifle from someone else who claimed it was a VN bringback. (no paperwork of course)
The other rig I posted has a light brown leather scope/mount case.
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Posted - 03/23/2005 : 12:11:33 PM
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Mas 49
# F 14970 (horizontal), barrel Mas-1953, grenade launcher, parkerized, condition new, no refurbishing stamp, stock & forend walnut.
Mas49-56
# G 21709 (vertical), barrel Mas-1971, refurbished 1971, transformed MSE 1975.
# G 50773 (vertical), barrel Mas-1966, refurbished 1970.
# H 73907 (vertical), barrel Mas-1991, (cal 7.08) no refurbishing stamp.
All three 49-56 are parkerized, and with flash hider.
logging of barrel date and refurbishing stamp can help to assess rifle past: my G21709 has a barrel dated 71 and refurb stamp 71, as G50773 has a barrel dated 66, it means that G21709 was rebarreled in 71.
kelt
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Edited by - kelt on 03/23/2005 12:32:08 PM
MAS49-56
Serial number is G 57767, vertical on receiver.
2 rebuild marks, [P72] and [P85]
Has muzzle break
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Posted - 03/25/2005 : 12:15:34 AM
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Here are mine:
MAS 44:
F63X black enamel
F143X black enamel
MAS 49 (French):
F193XX w/grenade launcher
MAS 49 (Syrian):
F378XX
MAS 49/56:
G350XX P63
G525XX not refurbished
G880XX not refurbished - like new - AR crown
H088XX modified MSE
USA
1 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2005 : 08:20:09 AM
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MAS 49/56 with Serial # G2778 (vertical) with muzzle brake and grenade launcher. The finish is dark Park. There is a "P76" in a box next to the serial #.
What is the significance of the horizontal vs. vertical serial # and what is the # in the box?
Thanks,
GTP Super
vonmazur
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Posted - 03/25/2005 : 12:02:41 PM
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Sometime in the early 50's, circa 1953, the MAS authorities began to stamp the number on the receiver vertically instead of horizontally. I believe that all of the 49-56 rifles were stamped vertically, unless an early 49 receiver was used to build a 49-56.
Dale in Ala
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kelt
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2315 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2005 : 12:27:26 PM
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It would be very handy to update your data by adding the barrel date, to be found under the hand guard and log in as well the refurbishing stamps.
kelt
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Posted - 03/25/2005 : 4:32:59 PM
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Here is what I have on my end:
Model 1949/56
G71040 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1960-MFt - no rearsenal
G44475 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1966-SE-h - rearsenal P67
H06596 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1961-AUb - no rearsenal
G87246 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1982-LMNi - rearsenal P88 & P92
H23379 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1981-LMNi - rearsenal P85
Model 49/56 - converted to 7.62 / .308
G40673 vertical, flash hider, barrel date MAS-1978-MFn - rearsenal P83
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Edited by - Buddy on 05/06/2006 08:41:56 AM
mawkie
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Posted - 03/26/2005 : 7:39:20 PM
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Here's mine to throw into the mix!
MAS 49 - No GL - F32360 - Barrel marked MAS 1962 - SEB
MAS 49 Syrian - F37477 - Barrel marked MAS 1953 - FYc
MAS 49/56 - Muzzle break - Vert. SN G9282 - Barrel marked MAS-1958 - SEb
Mark
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Posted - 03/26/2005 : 9:28:08 PM
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Thanks every one for the info on your rifles so far .DMinFla
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MAS 49/56-Flash Hider-Vertical-H06304-Rebuild P82
Barrel-MAS-1975-LMNg-Parkerized
MAS 49/56-Flash Hider-Vertical-G13724
Barrel-MAS-1972-CSJ-Parkerized-(.308)
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Thanks for all the new numbers guys.DMinFla
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Posted - 04/08/2005 : 5:58:12 PM
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Sangle's MAS 49/56 info
Serial Number : H1781*, stamped vertically
Type 2 flash hidder
Barrel date: MAS 1962 MFf
Rearsenal stamp: P71
mobeachboy
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Posted - 04/12/2005 : 11:29:25 AM
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MAS 49/56 Currently black painted 7.5 being converted to
308. Still has launcher and sites .
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Posted - 04/12/2005 : 4:04:58 PM
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Mas 1944,Ser#F3474,Bolt and Bolt Carrier forced matched.Trigger assem.forearm and bayonet do not match.Rifle appears to have been through a rebuild.Exterior and bore are Excellent.Metal is parakarized.
Mas 49 Syrian,Ser# F38725
Mas 49/56 Vert,Ser# G87009,muzzle brake.
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Thanks for the info on your rifle i have added it to my list.DMinFla
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Posted - 05/06/2005 : 8:54:14 PM
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MAS 1949/56 rifles
Ser# H07513
Does it have a open flash hider or a muzzle break on it: Flash Hider
Is the Ser# vertical or horizontal: Vertical
Two rebuild markings:P77 P86
Phosphated finish
vis35
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Posted - 05/12/2005 : 01:07:28 AM
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DMinFla was naughty, luring me in here from my usual haunt, the Japanese forum….
My MAS 49/56 is serial G51369 stamped vertical, has the flash hider, wide front sight base and rebuild mark “P75”. It is in un-issued condition and I have the scope for it as well, I bought that some time after I purchased the rifle. I would like to shoot it more but do not for lack of non-corrosive ammo. It fired three shot bursts (slamfires) with my handloads.
I also have a MAS36 bolt action that is a Viet-Nam bringback if anyone is interested in data from it. We often wish that our guns could actually tell us stories of where they have been, but I have always thought that this one’s stories would not be very nice.
Regards from Alaska,
Jeff
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Posted - 05/16/2005 : 02:09:42 AM
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As per your request on the Japanese Forum I have 2 Mas49-56s, No 1 is G7459 vertical cal 7.5 It is mint. # 2 G3656 vertical cal 7,62 marked 308 below this. It is abou 90% Both have flash hiders. I hope this helps. Bob Benson
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Thanks for reading Bob Benson
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Thanks for your info on your rifles so far i have gotten info on 21 44's,25 French 49 rifles,15 Syrian 49 rifles and 49 49/56 rifles.DMinFla
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I got it thanks for your info.DMinFla
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Posted - 06/13/2005 : 10:43:22 PM
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These are some, but not all of the ones that I have.
MAS 44 F48x Black Enamel
MAS 49 French Model
F803x Grenade Launcher, Stock cartouche of 1951 MAI, with canvas sling and First model APX 806 scope, with a serial# of SOM 62. This type has a straight vertical base, quite like the G43 mount. I've had it since the middle 80's.
F2364x Grenade launcher, Stock Cartouche of 1952 Juin.
F2415x Grenade Launcher, New Stock, this one is from AIM.
USA
300 Posts
Posted - 07/30/2005 : 7:46:43 PM
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They have been added to the list thanks.DMinFla
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Posted - 08/20/2005 : 02:46:24 AM
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Mas 49/56
flash hider
parkerized
Re-arsenaled
Serial No. H 38445
Vertical
Tom-M
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558 Posts
Posted - 09/13/2005 : 10:42:51 PM
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I have 3 rifles for survey.
MAS M1949, Syrian contract - SN# F37383
Grenade launcher, bayonet, stock cartouched "Juin, MA, 1953"
Externally all matching (stock, handguard, bayonet, etc), but has cover for 38954, bolt for F37181, bolt carrier for 33473.
Did they import these disassembled? Rifle is in excellent condition, and can only guess as to reason for internasl parts not matching.
MAS 49/56 - SN# G21794
Vertical SN#, type 2 flash hider
MAS 49/56 - SN# G97608
Vertical SN, type 2 flash hider
Has "P81" also on receiver - is this a rebuild marking?????
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MUD669
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 7:40:00 PM
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mas mle 1949-56
serial #vertical g64094
refubish p69
cal 7.62 then stamp under that ids .308 cal
22 hole muzzle brake
granade launcher and sight
has a internal safety
barell# 18465
top of barell where it goes in to reciever is a flat spot it has r5s
barell date i think is mas1976 LMNp like that
on the side of the reciever where the scope rail is it says cali st alb vt ts
it shoot five inch groups at a hunderd yards.
car
Gunboards Member
USA
33 Posts
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 08:09:34 AM
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MAS Mle 1949-56
Serial Number Vertical G38442
Barrel Number Under Grenade Sight 47075
Late Style Trigger Assembly
Refubished P91
Cal 7.5 French
Grey/Green Parkerized Finish
Late Style 22 Hole Flash Hider
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Edited by - car on 12/04/2005 08:22:58 AM
Edmond
Gunboards.Com Silver Star Member
France
635 Posts
Posted - 12/22/2005 : 5:26:25 PM
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Originally posted by Buddy
Buddy, did you buy this one from a guy working at GIAT ALM ? ( Western France, Le Mans, ammo factory)
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bluenorther
Starting Member
1 Posts
Posted - 12/23/2005 : 01:11:45 AM
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Hey!- New to this board, but not to firearms. Presently I own one 49/56 (7.5) did own a Century .308 conversion but traded it away.
My rifle is in like new condition (rearsenaled 1992) it is very dark parked, and came with all the standard goodies, bayonet, night sight, cleaning equipment, sling, etc.
I have never had any interest in French Firearms. I bought the rifle because I knew enough about the design to know that much of what you read is false- related to Century conversions, etc. The 49/56 is the surplus auto loader deal of the decade. You cannot find anything comparable in such fine condition, and I appreciate when condition and function are both flawless- the rifle has not disappointed me in either.
The serial number is G16215 (best I can make out) It shows rearsenaled stamps for 1977 and 1992. The wood is perfect and very pleasant looking. there are no marks on the metal, and only a couple on the finish, which are very small. The slip on butt pad is marked 1962. I cleaned the gas tube very well, never had a single problem with this rifle- but I did with the Century conversion (Yes, I know).
I have cleaned it very thoroughly, to include the wood, and have shot it extensivley over the past two years. It functions wonderfully with Frontier Brass, Nosler BTip 150s over IMR 4895 (dont have my table here for gr). It's a doll to shoot, dont like the front sight but thats just how it is- and I can still hit what I'm aiming at. I had some trouble at first with soft point bullets not feeding well, hence the Btips.
I guess its just me, but so many people complain that this rifle is ugly. I rather like the looks of it to be honest.
Tembo
Gunboards Super Premium Member
USA
491 Posts
Posted - 12/30/2005 : 01:48:03 AM
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Nice rifle Buddy, to say the least! No Century conversions needed.
A guy I run into regularly at gun shows here in Northern California claims to have a MAS 44"A". Have any of these turned up anywhere else, or any other 7.62Ns for that matter? Both must be very rare.
DM,
Here is another MAS44 for your survey:
Serial Number F5991 and it's parkerized
USA
15 Posts
Posted - 01/20/2006 : 1:23:32 PM
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Mas Mle 1944--F 5008---Butt stock and fore stock has matching #'s--C or G stamped on barrel--leather sling--barrel band looks like black paint--rest looks parkerized
Mas Mle 1949--F 24879--P66 in block on receiver--parkerized--extras that came with rifle
Mas Mle 49-56--G 39325--verticle--P74 in box (receiver)--barrel has different ser#--extra stuff came with rifle (clean kit,pouches,night sights Etc..)
Email if any questions or need more info
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Bill
DMinFla
Rest In Peace
USA
300 Posts
Posted - 05/06/2006 : 9:01:35 PM
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I have added your numbers to my list thanks.DMinFla
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Go here to enter your info for the
Survey on the MAS 1944,49 and 49/56 rifles http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...TOPIC_ID=95237
The Adventure Team 1970-1976
monsternav
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts
Posted - 07/05/2006 : 1:28:39 PM
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MAS Mle 1946-56
H29864 - vertical
P85 re-arsenal stamp
Parked
Muzzel Brake (?) One group of holes on either side. 4-3-4. 4 closest to the barrel are angled towards the muzzle end of the gun (away from the operator).
You didn't ask, but the scope has APX L. 806 on a shield type emblem, and OPL No. 1.675 below that
DMinFla
Rest In Peace
USA
300 Posts
Posted - 07/05/2006 : 5:32:02 PM
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Hi there i got your info thanks.DMinFla
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The Adventure Team 1970-1976
marysdad
Gunboards.Com Silver Star Member
USA
808 Posts
Posted - 07/30/2006 : 1:38:24 PM
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M1949 Syrian contract: F39005, barrel dated 1953.
M1949/56: G57443, barrel dated 1976 (no longer have this one, but did at one time).
Whenever there is a simple error that most laymen fall for, there is always a slightly more sophisticated version of the same problem that the experts fall for. Amos Tversky
USA
34 Posts
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 1:10:39 PM
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Here is another for you:
MAS 1949/56
Ser#H04647
Muzzle break
Vertical
CDB
Gunboards Premium Member
USA
158 Posts
Posted - 09/08/2006 : 8:46:25 PM
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Mine:
MAS 49/56 caliber 7.62 mm, serial #G 47659 (vertical), P72 stamp to the right of serial number, 7.5 over-stamped with a 6 over the 5 and a 2 added for 7.62, 308 stamped under 7.62. Eleven hole per side muzzle brake. Finish dark grey. CB over T on bolt. Sorry for the late post I just found this forum.
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CDB
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Michael Jon Littman
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USA
4378 Posts
Posted - 10/02/2006 : 09:40:30 AM
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I would like to kick this survey to the top along with some news about the person who began it.
Dan Mayfield, known here as DMinFL died in July of a heart attack at age 43. He began the work of collecting serial numbers for MAS semi auto rifles and I feel that work ought to go on. Please keep this thread alive with your continual contributions of serial numbers. I will attempt to restart the same thread at Parallax Bill's Place.
obsessed
Gunboards Premium Member
USA
159 Posts
Posted - 10/03/2006 : 8:51:21 PM
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Michael, very sorry to hear about Dan, my sympathies to his family. Heart problems seem to be prevalent around me lately.
I bought this about five years ago. The local pawn was nice enough to order from SOG for me. I have kept it in the box and all accessories are still as packed. I always felt it was too ugly to take anywhere. So I've never fired it. The bolt and all parts look as new to me. I tried to find an arsenal mark for rebuild status, but don't see anything other than the AR with an S under it on the front left of the receiver, just visible in the pics. Serial H 30537
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Hope this helps the survey. Regards, Bobby
Brigadier
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts
Posted - 10/25/2006 : 9:21:00 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Jon Littman
I would like to kick this survey to the top along with some news about the person who began it.
Dan Mayfield, known here as DMinFL died in July of a heart attack at age 43. He began the work of collecting serial numbers for MAS semi auto rifles and I feel that work ought to go on. Please keep this thread alive with your continual contributions of serial numbers. I will attempt to restart the same thread at Parallax Bill's Place.
A late addition to the survey. MAS 49/56. Parkerized -- finish similar to that of Obsessed's rifle, pictured above. Vertical serial number G 11504. P66. Barrel number under grenade sight 76858. Flash hider.
I tip my cap to Dan Mayfield.
McAuslan
The Stone Master
Gunboards Premium Member
USA
160 Posts
Posted - 12/22/2006 : 6:59:29 PM
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Syrian MAS 49
Ser.: F32938 (receiver, stock and trigger guard)
Cartouche reads 1953
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The Stone Master
galilman121
Gunboards Member
USA
12 Posts
Posted - 12/30/2006 : 12:52:42 AM
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I have a MAS 49/56 with the follwing features:
Muzzle break
Parkerized finish (green)
Vertical serial # H2489* (last digit edited for the board)
[P77] stamped into left side of receiver under rifles designation
Moe
Gunboards Super Premium Member
USA
530 Posts
Posted - 02/13/2007 : 10:10:23 AM
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Here ya go.
MAS 49 non export,grenade launching sight, parkerized
serial #F 70114 vertical
P72 rebuild mark
MAS 49/56 parkerized,type 2 flash hider
serial #G 67922 vertical
no rebuild mark that is visable
MAS 49/56 parkerized,type 2 flash hider
serial # G 38103 vertical
P66 rebuild mark
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Super_Sockmonkey
Gunboards Premium Member
USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/19/2007 : 05:07:03 AM
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I would like to add my MAS 49/56
Ser# G47861 it is vertical
Parkerized a gray/black color
Rebuild stamp [P82]
The Stone Master
Gunboards Premium Member
USA
160 Posts
Posted - 05/24/2007 : 09:35:17 AM
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MAS 49 Syria import rifles
Ser# F329xx
MAS 49/56 rifles
Ser# G 160xx
Has the 1963 type muzzle break
Is the ser# vertical or horizontal: vertical
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wayne in boca
Gunboards.Com Gold Star Member
USA
1901 Posts
Posted - 06/01/2007 : 06:24:37 AM
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MAS 49/56 ,dark parkerized,muzzle brake with 22 holes.Serial number G 19309,vertical.
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This mess is so big,so deep and so tall,we cannot clean it up,there is no way at all.
The Cat In The Hat
COG #57
Frag #30
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Alamas
Gunboards Member
France
40 Posts
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 12:22:58 PM
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hi,
somme serial numbers of MAS 49 and 49-56 I have met these past years:
F15569 - MAS 49 - Octobre 1951 on the stock rundel- barrel of 1951.
Bolt and rear sight replaced by spare parts of a MAS 49-56. Last assignation : BT (a Gendarmerie unit) of Carentan. Neutralized weapon.
F4975X - MAS 49 - 1955 on the barrel. Neutralized weapon.
F7774X - MAS 49 - August 1957 (stock rundel). Neutralized weapon. Like never been used.
F7776X - MAS 49 - August 1957 (stock rundel). Neutralized weapon. Like never been used.
G2713X - MAS 49-56 - P73, barrel of 1971.
H1543X - MAS 49-56 - Modified in "civilian" caliber.
It has been written in "la gazette des armes" and repeated by J. HUON that the MAS 49-56 has been produced between 1957 and 1978 for a total of 275240 units : 100 000 of the F serie, 100 000 of the G serie and 75 240 of the H serie. I have some doubts for the 100 000 units of the F serie. I have never seen a MAS 49-56 of the F serie, on any website. As you can see, somme MAS 49 were still produced in august 1947, and we know a MAS 49-56 of 1958, serial number G9282. Despite the events in Algeria, it was a time of peace. And I have doubts about a production of 100 000 MAS 49-56 in less than a year at the MAS in time of peace.
Does anyone have seen a MAS 49-56 with a serial number under F7776X?
Best regards
Alamas
MAS 49 french no GL horz # 15224 not sure on barrel could not get handguard off as this rifle looks unfired.not 1 scratch until I tried to remove the HG it's stuck,very pissed am I! this rifle was imported by CAI it now has cheekpiece and scope but I need a tool for it.Richard
Just purchased F 4077 (as was pointed out its a number made famous by the TV series M*A*S*H*!)
Dark gray parkerizing. All numbers match. Excellent original condition. G is marked on the front of the barrel. I have not taken the handguard off to see the date. Super nice rifle - can't wait to shoot her!
MAS 46/56: 1974 rebuild date, parkerized, (pristine), S/N H 0734(X),
MAS 49/56 MSE: 1968 Rebuild date, 1968 date on Barrel, Parkerized, excellent shape, S/N G 5210(X) M (Vertical), Serial Number also on trigger guard, Deep target crown on Muzzle, (hidden by the muzzle brake /flash hider). MSE Pistol grip stock and cheekpiece. (Was once in the private collection an employee (now deceased) of Century International- the importer)
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Reason: errors
AK_MILSURP
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"Remember the Range day, And keep it holy. May the light of the Holy Tracer guide thy aim"
MAS Mle 1949-56 Century converted to 7.62/.308 .Serial # is H 149XX . P77 .Barrrel # MAS 1971-CSH with an A in a square overstamped with a 2.There is another number on the barrel in front of the gas-block of 41572. Hope this helps. Russ
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Reason: spelling
MAS Mle 1949-56 Century import in 7.5. SN G928XX w/ 12205 on the barrel forward of gas block. P78.
כד יְבָרֶכְךָ יְהוָה, וְיִשְׁמְרֶךָ. The LORD bless thee, and keep thee;
כה יָאֵר יְהוָה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וִיחֻנֶּךָּ. The LORD make His face to shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee;
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My new to me 49/56, Vertical G 74725, 26336 under grenade sight on barrel, haven't seen under the handguard yet. Threaded barrel w/flash hider, parkerized (85% remaining), re-arsenaled P76 in the box. Nice looking wood not sure what it is...don't think it's beech but not sure how to tell. Tiny CAI import stamp on receiver. Packed in a box that had an old SOG packing slip...must be from SOG years ago! No accessories just 1 mag. Appears to have the front band electro penciled with H21912 and H10875. Looks to me to be a mixmaster?
I am the SOB that invented the conversion that ruined so many good rifles. Sorry but not my fault. Century did not do it right, so they did not have to pay me. They are not ever to be trusted.
My guns are numbered
H41748 7.5 french
vertical numbers
black park
chrome lined barrel
received unfired.(not like that now!!!)
reliable as the sun coming up in the morning.
syrian contract mas 49
sial number f33057
used condition
wood dinged, metal excellent, with worn finish, black park
horizontal number
top cover number is 35852
chromed barrel
Last edited by gunsmith; 01-22-2009 at 02:06 PM.
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I am the SOB that invented the conversion that ruined so many good rifles. Sorry but not my fault. Century did not do it right, so they did not have to pay me. They are not ever to be trusted.
My guns are numbered
H41748 7.5 french
vertical numbers
black park
chrome lined barrel
received unfired.(not like that now!!!)
reliable as the sun coming up in the morning.
syrian contract mas 49
sial number f33057
used condition
wood dinged, metal excellent, with worn finish, black park
horizontal number
top cover number is 35852
chromed barrel
As the Chinese say, do not settle for the one who says he knows, go to the one who knew first.
Besides the occasional slam fire , my MAS .308 does not horribly malfunction, and I have been to the Wolff site and did not see a catagoy for the MAS. I would like to get the recoil spring, and also ask, would it help if I lightened up the handload a spot?
Could you post a link, should/can I call them? I love this rifle, and do want to "settle" into thinkin it cannot be done right.
A long time Enfield collector, I find myself strangly drawn to the the MAS, what a rifle! Thanks ahead of time.
I am the SOB that invented the conversion that ruined so many good rifles. Sorry but not my fault. Century did not do it right, so they did not have to pay me. They are not ever to be trusted.
My guns are numbered
H41748 7.5 french
vertical numbers
black park
chrome lined barrel
received unfired.(not like that now!!!)
reliable as the sun coming up in the morning.
syrian contract mas 49
sial number f33057
used condition
wood dinged, metal excellent, with worn finish, black park
horizontal number
top cover number is 35852
chromed barrel
Where did you get your barrels chromed?, the barrels made by the French arsenals were not chromed.
As the Chinese say, do not settle for the one who says he knows, go to the one who knew first.
Besides the occasional slam fire , my MAS .308 does not horribly malfunction, and I have been to the Wolff site and did not see a catagoy for the MAS. I would like to get the recoil spring, and also ask, would it help if I lightened up the handload a spot?
Could you post a link, should/can I call them? I love this rifle, and do want to "settle" into thinkin it cannot be done right.
A long time Enfield collector, I find myself strangly drawn to the the MAS, what a rifle! Thanks ahead of time.
They also say they have firing pins if you want a spare to try blunting the tip for slam fires. Now if I can just get some specific guidance on mod'ing the gas block, my Century convert might be all right after all
They also say they have firing pins if you want a spare to try blunting the tip for slam fires. Now if I can just get some specific guidance on mod'ing the gas block, my Century convert might be all right after all
I have heard good and bad about installing an adjustable gas system, but to be honest, if I can just lighten up the firing pin with the titanium pin and beef up the recoil spring, I would be very happy to not put any more drills and saws to this rifle than I must. There was some talk of a guy in PA who did it well, but I have no luck finding him. Ill take it from Gunsmith, he seems to know whats going on from day one. I also am shopping for an original in 7.5
The MAS is a fine rifle. My personal favorite. Mine will deliver 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards all day long, as long as I do my part.(I am not as reliable as the gun unfortunatly).
Wolff springs have to be made up custom. Send them the original spring, and ask them to make one 3 links longer, and with heavier wire. This will increase the spring rate to an acceptable level.
The best test is to fire your gun wth the gas block on, single shot. See where the bullets impact the target. Then fire in semi-auto. They should go into the same group. If they impact below the group, your spring is too weak, and the brass is being ejected while the bullet is in the bore of the gun. By increasing the spring tension, the dwell time of the bolt will increase, allowing the bullet to leave the barrel, pressures to go to zero at the case, and easy extraction.
The extractor has to be altered so it holds the 308 round tight when the bolt comes to the rear. This is one of the reasons for the rim getting ripped off, as the extractor is made for a cartridge of larger diameter. It is fixed easily by filing material off the extractor where it meets the bolt.
By doing these things, and firing 168 to 190 grain bullets, you will have a rifle that is fantastically accurate, and reliable.
Do not clean with Windex. All that is is colored water with alcohol in it. Ammonia D has no ammonia in it...
I use 10 percent ammonia,from tru hardware, followed by Rem oil. Some of the new foaming cleaners have promise, but I do not use them in the MAS because I do not want foaming action in the gas tube.
Once again, lighten the firing pin by taking metal off the sides of the pin, and keep all tool marks running front to back. You will have no problems with slam fires.
Enjoy my toy.
P.S. the 308 that I made, now belongs to my son. I fire one in 7.5, and make brass from 30-06. It bulges a bit at the base, but 10 loading later, with no problems seem to indicate this is no big deal.
oh I may be the guy from Pa, as that is where I am at. There was one other guy, Toth was his name, but he faded out into the mist when he talked to me at the PGCA show one time.
MAS 49/56 serial H21150. Can't supply much history beyond being purchased from SOG International in late Jan. 2002. Received in like new/unissued condition and has only fired a few rounds since to ensure proper functioning. Sorry forgot to include the little brown plastic oiler that also came with it in the photo. br
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