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    Hey guys,

    Im not sure where the best place would be to post this so it might get moved. I have been woking to create a shim and barrel wrap kit for mosins. It should be able to work with m38, m44, and 91/30 (obviously PE, PEM, and PU). Im not sure how many of you have cut the shims out before but it sucks and can be time consuming to get them to fit right and have them look clean. So I am working with some people I know to create a laser cut shim kit. The kit includes "accurizing" instructions (including pictures from the russian manual), 4 piece laser cut 26 gauge galvanized shim set, and an olive drab light canvas barrel wrap. From what I have seen in the majority of the 91/30 stocks I come into contact with the shims are made of galvanized so I tried to keep it accurate in that sense. A larger gauge or even stainless could be a possiblity in the future. Do you guys feel like this would be something that you would be interested in? All feedback is appreciated.



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    At about $5 shipped, sure, i'd buy some.

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    I think it is a great idea. I have use galvanized steel and they are not that easy to cut out and get right. I have saved my patterns but have used about all my shims. The wrap, I would use high temp and non-porus gasket material but whatever works for you. I think such a kit would be worth at least $10 if not more.

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    Awesome idea! I would buy a few kits for my 1891/30's. As long as they are not too expensive and you would consider shipping to Canada. I think you have come up with a great idea there, Raupleminze!

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    depending on price; yup

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    i would be interested as well. geeeeeeeze, I might even pay more than 5 bucks!

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    Put me down for a couple. As long as it's reasonable.

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I actually was going to price them at $10 a kit, however I am eager to find out what people think of them and if you guys think certain things could be improved. Because of this I am willing to sell them for $5 a kit (pricing for one kit only) plus shipping to all who have replied to the thread so far if you will get back to me with a review. Even if it is a just one sentence. Please PM me if you are interested.

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    Depending upon price, I would definitely be in the market. I would be interested in seeing more than one shim of each size in a set, because sometimes one shim of a given type is just not going to be enough for some rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronbo6 View Post
    Depending upon price, I would definitely be in the market. I would be interested in seeing more than one shim of each size in a set, because sometimes one shim of a given type is just not going to be enough for some rifles.
    One M39 of mine had 5 shims under the tang. Finns knew what they were doing in setting the bedding up in this stock but 5 shims made me blink. They were right though. For your kits, maybe you can offer extra shims to purchase on the menu of prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milprileb View Post
    One M39 of mine had 5 shims under the tang. Finns knew what they were doing in setting the bedding up in this stock but 5 shims made me blink. They were right though. For your kits, maybe you can offer extra shims to purchase on the menu of prices.
    My B Barrel m39 came with 8 (as in eight) shims under the recoil lug, the Finns were freaks about accuracy, and I quite appreciate that.

    If you made accurizing kits I would certainly buy one or two to have handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronbo6 View Post
    Depending upon price, I would definitely be in the market. I would be interested in seeing more than one shim of each size in a set, because sometimes one shim of a given type is just not going to be enough for some rifles.

    I am hoping to get to that point eventually, early stages right now. Double kits could always be ordered and shims could be stacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vincentvangerven View Post
    depending on price; yup
    Ditto.

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    I think it's a viable idea. One suggestion-you should shape the mag well shims with the little side spikes like the original Soviet ones.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol' Relic View Post
    I think it's a viable idea. One suggestion-you should shape the mag well shims with the little side spikes like the original Soviet ones.

    I will have to check my stocks at home to see if I can pull a good candidate to get mic'd for the laser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raupleminze View Post
    I will have to check my stocks at home to see if I can pull a good candidate to get mic'd for the laser.
    Problem is that type are "driven" in (they have a bow in them until they're installed, and as they're flattened, they spread and drive the spikes into the side of the stock pocket). I wish I'd known this was going to happen-I had to take one out to repair it a few weeks ago and I could have taken pics/measurements.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol' Relic View Post
    Problem is that type are "driven" in (they have a bow in them until they're installed, and as they're flattened, they spread and drive the spikes into the side of the stock pocket). I wish I'd known this was going to happen-I had to take one out to repair it a few weeks ago and I could have taken pics/measurements.

    Thanks for the heads up Relic.......Ill have to get creative. I never realized they were spiked, I thought that they were glued in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raupleminze View Post
    Thanks for the heads up Relic.......Ill have to get creative. I never realized they were spiked, I thought that they were glued in.
    I've seen three types of mag pocket shims in Soviet refurbs. One type is made of steel (and in a black finish)-that's the type I mentioned above. I've also seen brass ones and galvanized ones. I don't know if the brass and galvanized used the spike system to secure them or not.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol' Relic View Post
    I've seen three types of mag pocket shims in Soviet refurbs. One type is made of steel (and in a black finish)-that's the type I mentioned above. I've also seen brass ones and galvanized ones. I don't know if the brass and galvanized used the spike system to secure them or not.

    I have a few with galvanized mag shims, I will let you know what i find out when I pull them.
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    Go for it.
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    I'll be watching this thread very closely. Awesome idea man

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    I know this is a start up idea. Galvanized is cheap to start with but in the future you may want to think BLACK OXIDE coating to keep them as original looking as possible. Normally they'd be blued but black oxide would be close in color. And it can be done at home.

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    Put me down for at least 2 sets. enjoyed shooting my 1928 Ex-dragoon yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepard5348 View Post
    I know this is a start up idea. Galvanized is cheap to start with but in the future you may want to think BLACK OXIDE coating to keep them as original looking as possible. Normally they'd be blued but black oxide would be close in color. And it can be done at home.

    Thats a great idea, I will have to look into it.
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    Put me down for 2 sets when they are available.

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    I would love 2 when available please.

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    You can put me down for 2 sets when available.

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    Hi Raupleminze,
    Definitely a great idea. Galvanized is about your best bet as stainless steel (SS) can be expensive. The cheaper SS will rust. As others have said, it would be nice to have a variety of thicknesses.
    $5 - 10 is very reasonable.

    Might have a few people from the Forum test your product before launching it. You have a built-in R&D lab with willing participant. Design a Before and After Test Sheet to document the results. Directions with Warnings and Legal stuff. I might be getting carried away but I always like a little overkill. Best wishes and good luck. I will surely buy at least one.
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    Did the initial kits arrive? Thoughts?
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    I was able to take a good look at the kit today. Overall it is very nice. The packaging was very nicely done. The shims are very nicely made and I love the instruction manual that comes with the kit. Lots of good info in there and the pictures would be very helpful to someone who is doing this for the first time. My only suggestion is that you include more shims in the kit. In my experience with these rifles, it usually takes about 1-3 shims under the tang and 2-4 shims next to the recoil lug. I don't like to do any sanding on the stock if possible, so I will use as many shims as necessary. I think it would be best to charge a higher amount and include enough shims to do at least 2 rifles. I would also include some more barrel wraps.

    Thanks again for letting me be a "test subject" and cutting me a deal on the first kit. Keep up the nice work.

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    Hey Guys,

    I have received a lot of constructive feedback about the initial kits that went out. I would like to thank mad_mardigan for his time and ideas. I am pleased to say that some changes have been made and the kits will now be up for sale. All kits will now include 3 sets of "accurizing" shims instead of 1. That way additional shims can be used on the same rifle when necessary. I have also lengthened the light canvas barrel wrap from 7-1/2" x 3/4" to 12"x 3/4" and 2 will be included in each kit. The instructions are also still included and will remain unchanged at this time. Each kit will now be designed for 1-2 rifles depending on how many shims you use. Pricing will be $20 + shipping. I have 30 kits available, please PM me or email at [email protected] if interested.



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    I received the 2 kits I ordered and in very timely manner I might add! I can't wait to install them, time permitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    I received the 2 kits I ordered and in very timely manner I might add! I can't wait to install them, time permitting.
    I am glad to see that you are happy and they made it to you safely.
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