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    Some new finds added to my list:

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    This weekend I got some firsthand information that there were about 5,000 out of the total production run of 8,000 Model 1935 Brazilian Mausers re-imported to Germany by Frankonia Waffen at Würzburg in 1976. The remaining only ca. 3,000 examples obviously went to the USA - so I was told yesterday. So no wonder if this gun is rarely encountered there. Here in Germany they just pop up from time to time - not really frequently, but one or two every two-three months and mostly in excellent condition. Prices vary a lot, like you can see from my list - and surprisingly often the best ones (at least after my opinion) are not the most expensive ones. Maybe German collectors stick mostly to Wehrmacht K98s and its Imperial Army and Reichswehr predecessors and only a small group looks beyond this... My friends in the shooting club have a saying: "In jeden deutschen Waffenschrank gehört ein K98!" ("In every German gun safe there has to be a K98!"). Okay, from this point of view my gun safe is absolutely ill-equipped...

    A further small piece of information I gathered this weekend concerns the type of muzzle protector for the M 1935 Brazilian Mauser. On the existing pictures you can find two different variants. The first is largely made from brass and the same like that used with the Brazilian Model 1908. The second is made of blued metal and has at its front a flap which can be opened. Seems that this is the "real" Model 1935 muzzle protector - but parallel use of the old style is rather likely, too. I got my (completely equipped with matching bayonet, factory test target, original sling and muzzle protector) M 1935 with an old-style protector, which perfectly fits.
    Last edited by 7x57; 04-13-2014 at 12:24 PM.
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    Saw one at the gun show today.
    the serial number is 7150, rifle is in brand new condition with serial # matching bayonet.
    No target, no muzzle cap.
    Asking price: $1350 CAD.

    OUCH!!!

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    I guess I should chime in. I have a long rifle # 4462. Has all the toys . Sling, Muzzle cover, Target, and Bayonet. Got this 20 years ago. Condition is new unissued.
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    Thanks, gentlemen. Will add your contribution with the next update.
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    List updated again:



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    And another piece of information:

    About 10-15% (500-700 examples) of the ca. 5,000 Brazilian M 1935 rifles which were re-imported to Germany have been modified to no-longer-shootable decoration pieces on customer request. It was a business triggered by our very restrictive firearms laws here in Germany which make it rather difficult for the average citizen to obtain a permission to buy a live firearm. And so many people who simply wanted to have such a piece hanging at the wall in their home bought these decoration arms (and still buy them). And regrettably not only weapons in bad condition had been modified - quite often also very fine pieces (as said - it is a business).

    The early way of modification was rather primitive - simply a steel bolt welded into the chamber which was not that difficult to take out again. But now the modifications are of such a nature that they simply destroy the weapon - bolts heavily welded in, six calibre-thick holes drilled into the barrel, the bolt head ground down at an angle of 45° - but nevertheless there are still people who buy this scrap...
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    Just seen - auction ended for long rifle No. 7215 (already in the list, but with "auction pending") - a gun that had been "castrated" for blank firing only... Has been sold for an incredible price of 361 Euros!
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    List updated, two new finds added:

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    New finds:

    Long rifle No. 215:

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    Long rifle No. 5655 (with bolt No. 5651):

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    Hi,
    I just came across this thread while researching my 1935 Brazilian. Thank you for the invaluable information you have gathered.
    I have serial number 5282 (long rifle) here in Australia and although I may never find out, I'd love to know about it's journey here. I do know it has been in storage for the last 25 years. It's had its first shots in that time very recently using reformed .270 win brass (7x57 is damn expensive over this way)

    edit : all matching numbers, with bayonet, no sling or test target
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    You're welcome, Dnjm and thanks for your contribution. Good reason to do a little update:

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    New finds:

    Long rifle No. 1523 (number probably misspelt - falls in carbine numbers' range):

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    Long rifle No. 5282:

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    Long rifle No. 6766:

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    Long rifles No. 6963 (left) and No. 7775:

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    Long rifle No. unknown13:

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    (yes, same photo as No. unknown1, this lucky guy told me he has 10 of these rifles in comparable condition to sell and is obviously too lazy to photograph them invidually...)

    Long rifle No. unknown14:

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    And the last new find:

    Long rifle No. unknown15:

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    You may find the article on Mausers in this old magazine interesting. The 1935 Brazilian is mentioned.
    http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazin...148partial.pdf

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    Really interesting article - thank you.

    Here you can see a little bit more of my Brazilian 1935 Mauser: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...-picture-heavy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7x57 View Post
    Really interesting article - thank you.

    Here you can see a little bit more of my Brazilian 1935 Mauser: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...-picture-heavy!
    Very nice rifle!

    I love 'em. Would buy another in a heartbeat if I ever come across one for sale locally.

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    Thanks, Dnjm. Here in Germany there are in the moment offered 4 nice examples (two of them with matching bayonets) by a big importer/dealer. Fixed prices (598 Euros without and 798 Euros with bayonet) - see Nos. 6963 and 7775, unknown14 and unknown15 above. Maybe this dealer will ship internationally - he's big in the business with importing (and maybe exporting, too) military surplus rifles. Export from Germany should be no problem, but I don't know, however, what regulations may apply in Australia for the import of such a rifle... If you need more info or support (also with German language) with the M1935s mentioned above, send me a PM.
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    My recent acquisition of a short Brazilian Model 1935 Mauser finally triggered an update - some new data found on "old customers", some new serial numbers added (albeit mostly bayonets only).

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    Newly found:

    Long rifle No. 2514:

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    Long rifle No. 5707:

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    Long rifle No. 7375:

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    Long rifle No. 7445:

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    Update, part II:

    Short rifle No. 1138:

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    Short rifle No. 1557:

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    Please add my rifle to your data collection:

    1935 Brazilian long rifle, serial no. 5633, all matching, no bayonet, paid $220 in 2007.

    Well used but intact, has rack number "69" painted on left buttstock, bore strong with dark grooves.

    Sling in photos not correct.




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    Thanks for posting - will be included in my next update. Gents - even if this thread is still a little bit older, as long as there is coming input, I'll keep it updated.
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    Here a a new update:

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    Long rifle No. 2496:
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    Long rifle No. 4546:
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    Long rifle No. 5633:
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    Long rifle No. unknown16:
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    Short rifle No. 1270:
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    You can add long rifle #4546. All matching including bayonet. Test fire target from March 1937. Does not includes muzzle protector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBulge75 View Post
    You can add long rifle #4546. All matching including bayonet. Test fire target from March 1937. Does not includes muzzle protector.
    Thanks - already included.

    And here comes a new update. Sometimes unlikely things happen - when I was collecting the data for this update, I recognized that the serial number of a long rifle currently in an auction here in Germany is the same as that on an M1935 bayonet I recently acquired. So I contacted the auction house and informed them that the future buyer of that rifle can contact me if he is interested in the matching bayonet also. Let's see what will happen... Normally a rifle and a bayonet once torn apart are extremely unlikely to find together again.

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    Long rifle No. 2496:
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    # 1967 here, excellent but used carbine. Have to look for a bayo----are they marked any special way???

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    Quote Originally Posted by lornedavis View Post
    # 1967 here, excellent but used carbine. Have to look for a bayo----are they marked any special way???
    Thanks for the input - maybe a picture available also? To your question - the only markings on Brazilian M1935 bayonets is the serial number, stamped on one side of the crossguard and matching to the serial number of the rifle. While the bayonets for the long rifles and the short versions are identical, the latter are even more difficult to find. I only found two (one in Europe and one in the US) out of the 1000-1999 carbine serial number range so far. I have two "surplus" M1935s bayonets - albeit both with long rifle serial numbers. Maybe I'll sell one of them (No. 7375 - see pictures above) in the near future...
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    Now identified - long rifle No. 65xx.

    Long rifle No. 6531:

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    looks like i got the 1770. Better condition than i expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagiman View Post
    looks like i got the 1770. Better condition than i expected.
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    Hi Chris!

    Congratulations. Interesting - I closely monitored the auction you won that rifle. It has been sold in a first auction in mid-September of this year, but obviously returned to the seller, so it was offered again two weeks later. The bolt looks to me to be a (possibly Brazilian-made) replacement on the pictures.
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    thanks for the congratulations! I know the seller already from previous deals and also had a look at that rifle a few weeks ago, when i picked up some other stuff at his place. It just needed an auction to match our ideas of the right price (i didn't get it for 200). It's in quite good condition (compared to other carbine pics here in the thread), with some surface rust and very small pitting below the wood line. Original blueing is about 90% at the system.
    About the bolt: it's from a Czech 08/34 Brasil, so the change of the bolt happened most probably already in Brasil, and not after importation by Frankonia.

    Now it needs a thorough cleaning job. Afterwards, i'll provide pics.
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    btw: thanks a lot for your list. This helped negotiating the price.
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    Chris, one question left - is there a kind of muzzle protector on the rifle? The pictures in the auction description are too small and uncrisp to see it clearly. If yes - that would be very interesting to see a good picture of - never seen a muzzle protector for the carbine version so far. Also sling details would be nice - the seller advertised it as a rare type. Admittedly, the sling and the possible presence of a muzzle protector for a short moment nearly induced me to bid on that piece, too. But since I don't have a real interest in deactivated or only blank-firing rifles (like this one) this short moment was over again very fast.
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    here some first pics of the muzzle protector and the sling.

    The protector is a cleaning protector for the muzzle, not the standard muzzle protector we're talking here about. This cleaning protector fits very well, it also fits on a Brazil M1908 (could be from this model as well). Looks the same as a Yugo M48 cleaning protector (saw it in Frankonia catalog), and fits on a M48 as well!
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    The sling: it shows the same 'diamond' pattern on the leather surface (Rautenmuster) as your sling, and length and width match well to the barrel bands. The mounting at the rear sling swivel looks uncommon to me, but i've got not enough experience to say if it's original or not.
    Sling size: length about 90 cm (only leather), width 30 mm, thickness 3.0 ... 3.5 mm (1/8 inch)
    An attachment for the parade hook is not there.
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    Chris, thanks your the pictures. Your muzzle protector is most likely a Yugoslav M.48A protector. IMHO the sling attachment on your M1935 is not the original one - it's the one used on the Chilean M1935 carbines. Also the sling itself looks to me more like a Chilean one than a Brazilian. I have a Chilean carbine sling which has the same type of adjustment buckle with that diamond-shaped attachment knob like your sling. AFAIK the Brazilian slings had that buckle sewn to the sling.
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    you're right, the rear sling attachment looks exactly the same as for the Chile M1935. I compared to a pic here in the forum:
    http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...-Mausers/page7 , post # 306.
    Differences: my sling is shorter than the one in the pic, and the rear sling attachment is sewn to the sling. But this sewing could be a later repair, at least the sewing looks old.
    Also, the color of the rear sling attachment doesn't match to the rest of the rifle (it looks like re-painted). Let's assume it is a Chilean one (which doesn't make it less worth).
    Chris

    edit: i just had a look at MMRotW: the Chile M1935 shown here (p. 82-83) is exactly the same sling as mine!
    Last edited by bagiman; 10-25-2014 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagiman View Post
    Let's assume it is a Chilean one (which doesn't make it less worth).
    Chris
    An original South American Mauser sling in good, usable condition is always worth quite a bit - irrespective of their exact origin. Here pictures of my Chilean sling - I think for the 1895 Model, length is 108 cm:

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    This sewn-to-the-sling attachment of your sling is exactly the one depicted on the picture of a Chilean 1935 Mauser carbine on page 79 in the 5th edition of Robert Ball's book "Mauser Military Rifles of the World".
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    i've got exactly the same sling, same leather colour, same diamond pattern, same kind of stitching. Length is 106 cm, width 3.0 cm. Mine is for sure a repro. It's now on a Costa Rica 1910 (guess where i got that from), but it looks too new for the quite worn rifle.

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    Quite a few like new 1935 7x57mm Brazilian Mausers came up here to Canada new in those zinc sardine cans and they are often up for sale, I have one which is in the back of the safe and next time I have it out will post it's serial number, I have handled and seen first hand about 4 of them in the last 3 years, they sell for about $1000 to $1300 with matching bayonet, sling, nose cap and sometimes test target.
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    Thanks, SwedeM96, for this announcement - maybe you can post a few pictures of the rifle, too?
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    You can add #6212:



    No bayonet. No sling. No test target. Does have muzzle device.

    New guns on the rack at your local Wal-Mart have more wear and tear.

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    Thank you - next update will be a larger one...
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    Last update for the next three months:

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    And the new finds:

    Long rifle No. 4233:
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    Long rifle No. 4506:
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    Long rifle No. 4837:
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    Long rifle No. 4838:
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    Some more new finds:

    Long rifle No. 5053:
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    Long rifle No. 6212:
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    Long rifle No. 7041:
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ID:	831659

    Long rifle No. 7238:
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ID:	831663 (only bayonet known)

    Short rifle No. 1967:

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    Gentlemen, here comes the newest update:

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    Pictorial evidence of new "candidates":

    Long rifle No. 793:

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    Long rifle No. 2664:

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ID:	855086 Regrettably "half-castrated" into a single-loader by blocking the magazine (according to an older, now-defunct German firearms regulation)
    Last edited by 7x57; 01-13-2015 at 08:47 PM.
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    More new finds:

    Long rifle No. 4531:

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    Long rifle No. 5823:

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    Long rifle No. 6164:

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    Long rifle No. 7963:

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    And the last ones for now...

    Long rifle No. unknown18:

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    Long rifle No. unknown19 (probably No. 4600, but hard to read):

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    Long rifle No. unknown20:

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    Thanks, Michael, Very nice rifle in perfect condition. Additionally, it is extremely interesting because of its serial number in the 1000 range. So far I was convinced that these serial numbers had been used only for the short rifles. Well - I already found one such example (ser. no. 1523) in the past, but here the pictorial evidence wasn't really good, so I thought this was most likely a typing error of the serial number in the description.

    The bayonet frog looks to me to be a later added reproduction.
    Last edited by 7x57; 03-09-2015 at 08:15 AM.
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    Gentlemen, here comes the latest, long overdue update:

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    And the pictorial evidence of the "newcomers":

    Long rifle No. 803:
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    Long rifle No. 1425 (yes, there obviously exist a few long rifles with serial numbers falling into the s/n range for short rifles - this is already the second I've found!):
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    Long rifle No. 2227:
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