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    Default Great War Collection

    Central Powers:
    Austria-Hungary

    -M.95 Mannlicher, Steyr, 1917. This one was converted postwar to 8x56R. Has a canvas sling & the Austrian rod rifle grenade w/friction pull primer. Below it is an OEWG marked M.95 bayonet & scabbard & an FGGY bayoonet/scabbard. Just below the rifle grenade is the special 8x50R blank used for firing that grenade.
    -M.88/90 Mannlicher, Steyr, 1890, cal. 8x50R. Rear sight sideplates are FGGY marked. Below it is a M.88 bayonet/scabbard/frog.
    -M1891 Mosin-Nagant, Tula, 1915, cal. 7.62x54R. That description should tell you this is a cheat. While the action is not from an Austrian conversion, the stock is. It is dated 1890-something (can't make out the last number) & has the Austrian wire swivels. Also has a hole in the bottom of the butt for the screw-in type Austrian swivel, and is marked W on the top of the butt & A on the right side. That's probably as close as I'll ever come to an Austrian M-N conversion.
    -M.95 Mannlicher carbine, Steyr, 1917, cal. 8x50R. Except for the blued bolt, this one seems pretty original. Has the stutzen type front band with bayonet lug & stacking hook, & screw head on the left side of the rifle. Below is a M.95 carbine bayonet w. scabbard/frog.
    -M.95 carbine, Budapest, barrel dated 1899, cal. 8x50R. This carbine is mismatched, with a Budapest receiver & a Steyr barrel. The interesting thing about it is it seems to have a karabiner style front band instead of a stutzen band. It has a bayonet lug, but no stacking hook, and the screw head is designed to enter from the right side of the rifle.
    -M.90 Extra-Korps Gewehr, cal. 8x50R, Steyr, barrel date 1902. Missing rear sling swivel.
    -M.90 cavalry carbine, Steyr, cal. 8x50R. Has no barrel date, and circle T firing proofs. This may have been a Bulgarian contract carbine or one of those made for commercial sale to other militaries. With a very old leather sling.
    -Zeitzunder or 'Guguruz' hand grenade with friction pull fuse. The cast iron fragmentation section interchanges with the rifel grenade up top.
    -M1898 revolver, Rast & Gasser, Vienna, 1916, cal. 8mm Gasser. 8 shot, the most wonderfully gawky & mechanical pistol I've handled.
    -M1912 Steyr-Hahn, Steyr, 1914, cal. 9x21.
    -Above is the Austrian version of the German Stahlhelm, in their tan color with fabric chinstrap.
    -Below is the version of the Austrian helmet that has the Berndorfer type liner instead of the German system. It's not a Berndorfer helmet, look to JPS's collection for those, but note how the rivets behind the ventilating lugs are much smaller and higher up than those on the other helmet.

    Germany

    -Gewehr 98, DWM 1915, cal.7,9x57. Repro sling, 98/05 bayonet below scabbard & frog above.
    -Kar. 98a, Erfurt, 1916. Below is unit marked 84/98 bayo. w. iron mounted leather scabbard.
    -Gew. 88, Spandau 1889. S marked, no overt signs of Turkish use.
    -Gew.88/05, Steyr, 1890. Czech made Turkish bolt, repro sling, M71/84 bayonet by OEWG above, scabbard below, .
    -Gew. 91, Erfurt 1893. Has a cartridge case stuck in the chamber that I haven't gotten around to yet, hence the open bolt, clip of 1903 dated 7,9x57 above.
    -Mosin-Nagant M1891, Chatellerault, France, 1895, cal. 7.62x54R. The sharp eyed will note that this rifle has a Finnish stock & sling. It is also fitted with the German bayonet adapter for this rifle as used in WWI. 1918 dated m84/98 bayonet above, scabbard below. Also my only German manufactured round of 7.62x54R ammunition above, made by Polte in Magdeburg in 1917.
    -7.7cm shrapnel shell with its separate loading shell case.
    -Mauser C96 pistol, Mauser Oberndorf, cal. 7.63x25. Wartime military accepted commercial style pistol, w/ stripper clip of 10 rounds of 7.63mm Mauser.
    -Below the C96 pistol is a 2cm Becker cannon round. The Becker was developed for use on zeppelins. While it saw limited use in the air, it was used as a ground based anti-aircraft cannon. Dated 1918.
    -Model 1914 n/A ball hand grenade & Model 1917 'egg' grenade. Below them Model 1917 stick ('potato masher') grenade.
    -Pistol-08 (Luger), DWM, 1914, cal. 9x19.
    -M16 Stahlhelm with fitted hessian cover.
    -M16 Stahlhelm shell, camo painted, with large, compression type fracture on the top.
    -M18 Stahlhelm.

    Bulgaria/Ottoman Empire (Turkey)

    -M.95 Mannlicher, Steyr, 1915-18?, cal. 8x50R. No Bulgarian crest, but has the Lion proofs on barrel & receiver. NCO bayonet below it is not Bulgarian marked, but I bought it from someone in Bulgaria, so it goes here for now.
    -M1887 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1889-90, cal. 9.5x60R. Last Mauser military blackpowder design. My only round of 9.5mm Turkish ammo is below it.
    -M1893 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1894-95, cal. 7.65x53. Original condition Turkish M93 with original looking sling. M1890 bayonet below.
    -M1903 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1908?, cal. 7.65x53. John Wall told me a few years ago that this was from the Turkish Macedonian Gendermerie contract and so was made in, I think, 1908. M1903 bayonet below.
    -FN Browning Model 1903, cal. 9mm Browning Long. Ottoman contract marked.
    -Turkish cut down visor stahlhelm. Most of these seem to have been based on M18 German helmets. This is based on an M16.
    Allies:
    Serbia/Montenegro/Russia:

    (NOTE: The two Mosin-Nagant rifles are the same length. The apparent difference is an optical illusion caused by the angle of the photograph.)
    From the top:
    -M1910 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, Germany 1910-1912, cal. 7x57. Commercially marked model 1910 with Serbian proofs. In very rough shape, but I have searched long & hard for any Serbian WWI configuration rifle.
    -M-1891 Mosin-Nagant, 1917 Tula Peter the Great marked, mismatched but markings intact, no importer marks or importer serial #. No evident Balkan or Finn markings.
    -Remington bayonet for same.
    -M1907 Mosin-Nagant cavalry carbine, Izhevsk 1912. Stock well sanded & with inappropriate sling, but all matching.
    -M1895 Winchester, Russian contract. Not Spanish marked, came to me with two rounds of Finnish 7.62x54R in the butt trap, not that that signifies, but it was a nice surprise.
    -M1891 M-N, Tula 1899, Balkan import, Romanov birds more or less intact. Has the eagle over HI mark on the left side of chamber & receiver. Was sold to me as a Montenegrin rifle. Marks had fresh looking white goo in them when the rifle arrived. Goo obscured the markings, so was removed, revealing equally fresh looking marks stamped in the metal. Doesn't really resemble the pictures of JPS's I've seen, either. Long description, but that's to say that I have my doubts, but it's my Montenegrin until something better comes along.
    -M1895 Nagant revolver, 1913. Arsenal marks removed, but still has the old front sight.
    -M1911 Colt, caL. .45acp, commercial pistol with English Contract mark in Cyrillic on left side of frame, refinished.
    -Serbian Adrian helmet, fairly rare, made in France.
    -Sohlberg helmet, Finnish made, intended for the Russians, mostly used by the Finns.
    -Russian Adrian helmet, like the Serbian helmet , made in France.

    Next, Romania:

    -Md. 1892 Romanian Mannlicher. Steyr 1893, cal. 6.5x53R. Cleaning rod is mismatched but otherwise very nice. Bolt is Belgian marked in addition to Steyr marked. Bayonet scabbard & frog below.
    -Md. 1893 Romanian Mannlicher. Steyr 1897, cal. 6.5x53R. Serial # 33! In remarkable shape. I don't believe it was ever accepted by the Romanians; there is no crown above the model designation on the receiver. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Md. 1893 Romanian Mannlicher cavalry carbine. Steyr 1894, cal. 6.5x53R. These are rather difficult to come by.
    -Shell of Romanian 'Adrian' helmet with crest of King Ferdinand I

    France:

    -Mle1886 M.93 'Lebel', cal. 8x50R, MAC 1889. World's first smokeless powder military rifle. Above it is the early version of the Mle1886 bayonet 'Rosalie', with German silver hilt and quillion, below is the later version, with brass hilt & no quillion.
    -Mle 1907/15 'Berthier', cal. 8x50R, Delaunay Bellville, 1917. 3 shot rifle. Delaunay Belleville was a well known automobile manufacturer in France at the time.
    -Mle1890, MAC 1890. This was the first weapon of the 'Berthier' type. The 1890 cavalry carbine came in two styles (maybe more, ask those who know on the French forum to be sure), the other version had a different type of stock for the Cuirassiers. As a cavalry carbine it takes no bayonet.
    -Mle1892, MAS 1892. This modification of the Mle1890 to take a bayonet was for artilleryman, fortress troops, and anyone else who needed a rifle but not an infantry rifle. This one escaped the modifications made after the war to most of these, and still has provision for its cleaning rod. This cleaning rod is a repro. Above is the earlier version of the Mle1892 bayonet, with a rubberized composite handle, together with its scabbard & frog, below is the later version of the bayonet with the wooden handle.
    -Mle M. 16, MAC 1918. The Berthiers were modified to take five shot clips, resulting in the extended magazine you see here. That was the modification M. 16. This rifle was assembled at Chatellerault, but the receiver was made at the Etts. Continsouza, who were manufacturers of motion picture cameras and equipment.
    -Mle 15 'Adrian' helmet, painted in the mustard-khaki of the French Colonial troops. The crescent badge with RF, for Republique Francais, was used by Zouave & Spahi regiments, amongst others.
    -Mle 1873 revolver, Cal. 11mm, MAS 1883. Double-action revolver, which came out in the same year as the Colt SAA. nice handling revolver.
    -somewhat squashed holster for the Mle1892 revolver.
    -Mle 1892 revolver, cal. 8mm, MAS 1896. Has a loading gate, but also a cylinder which swings out to the right, for cavalry use. This one is naval marked.
    -Mle 15 Adrian helmet. This helmet bears the standard flaming bomb with RF of the French infantry. It is painted in the slate blue-gray color that was adopted after the initial horizon blue color turned out to be too conspicuous.

    Here are some more French rifles that didn't fit in the first photo, along with some other widgets, and since we have the room, more than the usual one or two helmets:

    -Mle1874 M. 80 M.14 'Gras'. The black powder 11mm Gras rifle was modified early in the war to accept the 8mm Lebel round as a war emergency measure. The barrel was reamed out and sleeved to 8mm, and a handguard was added. The t-backed bayonet & scabbard are for the Gras, but the bayonet is marked Steyr, 1881. I'm not sure if that is appropriate to go with a French rifle or not, maybe someone will enlighten me.
    -Fusil Automatique Mle 1917, cal. 8x50R, MAT 1917. The first semi-automatic issue infantry rifle used in combat. the Germans used both Mondragon & Mauser semi-autos in aircraft, and the French used Winchester M1907 & M1910 rifles in aircraft & the trenches, but this rifle was the first semi-auto built & issued by a military for its ground forces. utilizes a five round clip different from that of the Berthier M.16. This rifle, as with most Mle 1917s, was modified in the 1920s or 30s by having its gas system plugged, thus making it essentially into a bolt action.
    -'Petard de la Troisime armee'. improvised French grenade from early in the war. A piece of wood with a belt hook on the back. The block at the top has a nail stuck in it to act as a friction fuse. Pull the wire attached to the nail, nail rotates & grinds against the black powder starting a train, which burns down into the iron cylinder and explodes the main charge. Extra bits of iron are wired to the sides for more shrapnel.
    -Mle 1914 'bracelet' grenade. Cast iron sphere with a wooden plug fuze. The pin in the fuze would have been connected by a chain to a metal hoop worn around the wrist. When the grenade was thrown, the pin would be pulled by this chain to start the fuze. This gave some distance between the thrower & the grenade, as the fuzes had a tendency to go off prematurely.
    -Vivien-Bessier rifle grenade, without launcher, but with brass guard to protect the igniter. There are threads with better examples & excellent descriptions of how these work in the French board.
    -French P1 grenade.
    -Hotchkiss 37mm HE round, 1918. This is the type used in the infantry guns use by both the French & US troops, as well as in the Renault FT tanks when they were cannon equipped.
    More Mle 15 helmets:
    -Another infantry helmet, an early example which was originally painted horizon blue but has been overpainted in the darker color. compare with the light Horizon Blue artillery helmet below it.
    -The badge of the Engineers.
    -The badge of the Medical Corps.
    -The badge of the Chasseurs. most of the darker blue-gray has worn off this helmet, revealing the early light Horizon Blue.
    -That on the left has an artillery badge and is painted in the early, lighter horizon blue color.
    -The helmet of the Czech Legion, serving in France. I have no Czech section for WWI, so this may rest here.
    -Helmet of an Officier Medecin. Pre-war medical badge used by some officers instead of the wartime version, above.
    -Helmet of an Officier de Chasseurs. Some Chasseur Officers used the pre-war hunting horn emblem, which lacked the RF of the wartime version, above.
    -Helmet of the Colonial Infantry.

    Belgium/Luxembourg:

    M1889 Mauser, Fabrique Nationale. This particular 1889 was captured by the Germans & rechambered to 7,9x57. The chamber has the Prussian eagle firing proof. The stock does not have the Deutches Reich marking but does still have the Belgian Guarde Civique mark.
    -M1916 Mauser carbine. Manufacture D'Armes de L'Etat. Cal. 7.65x53. The Belgians standardized on this carbine during the war. No date, so it stays in the WWI section.
    -M1900 Luxembourg Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1900, cal. 6.5x55. Very few of these about, a modification of the Swedish Mauser with a shorter barrel & different front band.
    -M15 Adrian helmet, with the lion of Belgium.

    Great Britain & Commonwealth:

    -Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mark I***, RSAF Enfield, Enfield Lock, England, 1911, cal. .303. Mark I series SMLE updated to *** standard between 1914-1919.
    -Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mark III*, BSA, Birmingham, England, 1917, cal. .303. Sporting the No. 35 Mk.I high explosive rod rifle grenade, marked G.H. & Co. 1918.
    -SMLE Mark I**I.P. A Mk. I SMLE updated to MK III configuration at Ishapore, India. The receiver was originally made at Enifeld in 1904 and the rifle was remanufactured to this pattern in 1917. With leather sling. Pattern 1907 bayonet, by Wilikinson, 1918 above, scabbard & Pattern 1914 frog, made of boiled leather, 1915, below.
    -Pattern 14 Mark I, Eddystone, 1916?, cal. .303. This P-14 is in original condition, with volley sights, and without the Mark I * markings.
    -Ross MkIII, Ross Rifle Co., Quebec, 1914, cal. .303. This rifle is C.E.F. marked. Mk.III bayonet below. The Mk. II & Mk. III bayonet will not interchange.
    -RossMkII***, Ross Rifle Co. Quebec, 1910. Rifle is U.S. and ordnance bomb marked, and came with a Kerr No-Buckl sling attached. Mk. II bayonet scabbard & frog (also U.S. marked) below.
    -Below the scabbard is a Mk.II charger with Dominion Canada 1916 dated Mk.VII ball. The charger is also Canadian marked.
    -Along the buttplates of the rifles is a .303 cloth bandolier dated 8-18.
    -No.5 Mk.I Mills grenade, base plug dated 9/16.
    -No.27 Mk.I smoke grenade, repainted, 1917, sans rod.
    -Webley Mk.VI, Philip Webley & Sons, Birmingham, 1916, cal. .455.
    -No.34 Mk.III grenade, 1917.
    -Colt Model 1911, Colt, Hartford, CT., R.A.F. contract, after May 1918, cal. .455.
    -Mk. I 'Brodie' helmet. Sand is mixed in the paint to reduce glare.

    Italy:

    -Fucile Modello 91 Carcano, Torre Annunziata, 1898, cal. 6.5x52. With M1891 bayonet, scabbard/frog.
    -Moschetto Modello 91 per Truppi Speciali (M91TS), Brescia 1917. Made with lug for special TS bayonet (pictured).
    -M91TS, Brescia 1915. TS with standard M91 bayonet lug. This should be in the WWII section, as these were converted after 1918, but I already took the picture this way, and you can see the two configurations side by side.
    -M1870/87/15 Vetterli, Brescia 1888, cal. 6.5x52. This is another example of the country's older blackpowder weapons being rechambered for the newer smokeless round as an emergency measure early in WWI.

    -Farina helmet. These helmets, with heavy armored browplates, were made for use by assault troops. JPS talked with me about this one a few years ago, and pointed me to some people who could look at it in person. Net result is, I'm somewhat dubious about the authenticity of the brain pan part of the helmet, but am pretty happy with the armored plate, even if it is of non-standard shape.
    -Glisenti M1910, Brescia, cal. 9mm Glisenti. Beautifully made pistol, but with frame design that does not allow for a powerful cartridge. Round is dimensionally identical to a 9mm Parabellum, but only about 75% as powerful. With holster.
    -Model 1889 Bodeo, Type II, G.A. Castelli, Brescia 1917, cal. 10.35mm. Enlisted mens' version with folding trigger.
    -Beretta Model 1915, Pietro Beretta, Brescia, cal. 9mm Glisenti. Beretta's first military pistol design. Originally made in .32acp, this version is chambered in the 9mm Glisenti round. These were issued to both the army & the police. This example is police marked.
    -Italian Mo.15-16 Lippmann helmet. The Lippmann was a simplified copy of the Adrian. THis helmet is fitted with a cloth cover from the 9th Infantry Regiment, with a symbol for the machine gun company on the side.

    Japan/Brazil:

    -Type 38, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo, cal. 6.5x50SR. Early production Type 38, although I haven't seen anything which could tell me if this serial # dates to WWI period or not. Missing dust cover. Original sling.
    -Type 30 Rifle, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo. Royal Chysanthemum has been overstruck with arsenal mark, meaning this rifle was sold out of Japanes service. This could be one of the many rifles of this type supplied to Russia in WWI, or even to Great Britain. There are no marks to indicate one way or the other, though.
    -Type 44 carbine, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo. These folding bayonet carbines began to be produced in 1911. Again this is an early model, but I know of no way to date it to the WWI period.
    -Yes, Brazil entered WWI in 1917, although it's unlikely that any Brazilian Mausers saw action. Brazil's navy, including her two dreadnoughts, took over South Atlantic convoy responsibilities, and Brazil seized German assets in the country. Brazilian M1908 Mauser, DWM, Berlin, cal. 7x57. with leather action cover, bayonet & scabbard.

    Portugal/Greece:

    -Shell of Portuguese pattern mild steel helmet. This was patterned after early private purchase helmets used by British officers. This one doesn't have the ventilating holes in the sides, but has been ventilated by someone using it for bayonet practice at some point.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1904 'Vergueiro', DWM, Berlin, 1904-1908, cal. 6.5x58. Portuguese troops on the Western Front used British weapons, but this was the standard Portuguese rifle, and was used by them in Africa, as well as by South African troops, to whom the Portuguese supplied a large number. This is the only Vergueiro I have encountered with the original finish on the stock, most of those from Africa & elsewhere have been well sanded. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1904, DWM, Berlin, 1904-08. This one is different in that it is D.M.G.L.M. marked, in English, General Military Directorate of Laurenco Marques. So this rifle was assigned to Portuguese East Africa, where they were used by Portuguese, and, when captured, by German troops. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1896, Steyr 1899, cal. 6.5x53R. These short rifles were ordered for the Portuguese Navy & were based on the Romanian Mannlicher rifles. They even have the Romanian final inspection proofs on them, as does the bayonet, which I acquired from Portugal, below.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1886 'Kropatschek', Steyr 1886, cal. 8x56R Krop. These would still have been in use with colonial forces in WWI. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Model 1903 Mannlicher-Schoenauer, Steyr 1907, cal. 6.5x54. Greek rifle with original sling, not easy to find. Bayonet is for this rifle but is a cheat, as it was made in Italy & so is post WWI in origin.

    China/Siam:

    Both of these countries declared war on the Central Powers in 1917, and both of their activities were limited to seizing German ships & other assets within their borders.
    -Hanyang type rifle, cal. 7.92x57. This is one of the many Chinese copies of the Gew. 88, without the barrel jacket. Hanyang Arsenal produced some of the best versions of this rifle, hence its name amongst collectors. This example has no markings as to the maker. I made the guy climb the ladder in the showroom of Springfield Sporters & get it for me because I liked the markings on the butt. It is extremely beat.
    -Hanyang type carbine. An equally beat carbine length version of the above rifle.
    -M1903 Siamese Mauser, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo, cal. 8x52R. Converted form the original 8x50R. Bayonet & scabbard below.

    United States:

    -Model of 1903, Springfield Armory, Springfield, MA. 1909, cal. .30-06. Springfield '03 with single screw stock in pre-WWI configuration. Some of the parts are parkerized from later mixing & matching. Scruffy 1906 dated M1905 bayonet below.
    -Model of 1917, Eddytstone Arsenal, Philadelphia, PA. 1918, cal. .30-06. Late war Eddystone with what's left of original finish. Lend-lease marked for Canada. Kerr No-Buckl sling, bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Model of 1898 Krag-Jorgensen, Springfield Armory, Springfield, MA 1901, Cal. .30-40. Krags were not only used in the U.S. for training & guard duty, but also made it to France in the hands of railway troops. Mills web sling.
    -Colt Model 1917 Revolver, Colt, Hartford, CT. late 1917-early 1918, cal. .45ACP. This is an early Colt that cannot be fired without the half-moon clips.
    -Coll Model 1911, Colt, Hartford, CT. 2003, cal.45 ACP. This is a cheat. It's one of Colt's newly made 'continuation of WWI production' pistols, with WWI era 1911 features & markings.
    -Colt Model 1909 Revolver, Colt, Hartford, CT. 1909-11, cal. .45 Long Colt (modified). This example is a military revolver with a cylinder & crane from a commercial gun.
    -Smith & Wesson Model 1917, Smith & Wesson, Springfield, MA. 1917-18, cal. .45 ACP.
    -M1909 holster, for any of the revolvers.
    -On the right is the U.S. M1917 helmet, based on the British Mk. I. This is a U.S. made example (you can tell by the rivets on the chinstrap swivels indside) which has sawdust mixed in the paint to reduce glare. Marked with the red diamond of the Fifth Infantry Division.
    On the left is what remains of my grandfather's M1917 helmet. He was in an artillery unit that was attached to several divisions during its stay in France. On the sides, at the edge of the rim, you might be able to make out two small loops of wire. There are three small holes on each side in this area to hold these loops. They are for a device called the Wilmer eye shield. Many helmets were modified for this device, although it was not generally issued.
    Last edited by tplan; 06-13-2010 at 08:28 AM.

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    A big, loud "WOW"! :D Thanks for posting pictures from your collection tplan, you've got a lot to be proud of there. Hard work went into acquiring all of those examples.

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    Very impressive collection. Yeah WOW seems to sum it up.
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    Great stuff!

    Does anybody know if the friction pull primer on that Austrian rifle grenade was pulled mechanically upon firing, or did the user have to pull it manually and then pray the rifle didn't misfire?

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    Speachless, I'm totally speechless. Wow!! Thank you for sharing those pics. Did I say wow before this??:D
    Jonathan

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    Simply Amazing!This is one of the best gun collections i have ever seen.
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Thumbs up Very Nice.

    Thank You For Posting Your Pictures. Very Very Nice. Gi Joe:d

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    Wouaaaa so nice and impressive...
    Great collection, congratulation.
    Regards
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    Every time I open this thread, a few more photos manage to load, I think it is time to get the gang and head your way with the truck (as soon as all the photos load, of course, I am kidding myself, that will probably years from now) This is an impressive collection, and I have only seen a small part of it as yet.
    Best wihses
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    Oh boy, something is wrong with my internet service today, all the photos managed to load. This is a very nice collection, but I have to question the Poragee helmet, The crown looks to be a bit deep for the standard Portagee/private purchase Brit helmet. I would be more inclined to call it a miner's hard hat, but then the early British private purchase helmets were actually commertial miner's hard hats. I have not seen any period photo af a helmet with sush a deep crown used in the trenches, but again, that only means that I have not seen such a photo.
    It is nice to see that your Webley has not bee altered for .45 ACP as most in the US are.
    Best wihses
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    btt

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    Wow! :eek:

    Beautiful groupings and shots. However, you guys make me feel like crap. I've got lots of 'stuff' around here, but never seem to get it together into a coherent collection.

    Anyone taking vacation soon and need a little side project? I'll buy the beer! :D

    Thanks for the great display!

    - Best Regards! Mike
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    fantastic , thanks for shareing this with us

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    Absolutely fantastic and I am salivating with envy.

    I do not envy you American guys for having always the
    chance of being shot by a robber around the corner,
    but here in the good old UK is virtually impossible to get a
    collection like this.

    99.9% of historical surplus weapons seem to end up in the states
    thanks to your weird Bill of Rights militia and bare arms stuf...

    Bless

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    Hey Deadjune,
    Here in the US we do not have to worry about being shot by a robber, heck they have to worry more about being shot by us. There was even an Islamic terrorist, who attacked a crowded shopping mall, that was killed by an armed citizen before he killed many people (although I think he did kill 5 before he was shot)
    Our Bill of Rights is not so weird, it was written to make sure no government could subjegate the citizens in this country, and there is one very go historical event that proves that it is a good thing, During WWII, the Japanese had no intention of invading populated areas of the United States (they did invade Alaska) because they feared that there would be an armed citizen behind every blade of grass..
    Best wishes
    Gus

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    True story: In 1939 there was an incident here in central Louisiana. Not far from here, is a very small town named Poland. A few miles down the road, is an even smaller town named Echo. One night, someone came across a large group of armed citizens, at the gas station in Echo. They had rifles, shotguns, and hunting dogs. When asked what was going on, someone said, in a very Cajun accent, "We done heard on da radio, dat the Germans done invaded Poland. We'll be G--Damned if they gonna take Echo!"

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    Sanded stock and all I would love to have a MN 1907....my holy grail of Mosin's. Love the Mle 1873 revolver too, I'd like to turn one up someday.

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    WOW is all I can say:eek:..............and another reason I only collect US stuff.......there is just too much ..........you must have a big building to store/hold it all......:D:D

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    An AWSOME collection. I'm blown away!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trenchwarfare View Post
    True story: In 1939 there was an incident here in central Louisiana. Not far from here, is a very small town named Poland. A few miles down the road, is an even smaller town named Echo. One night, someone came across a large group of armed citizens, at the gas station in Echo. They had rifles, shotguns, and hunting dogs. When asked what was going on, someone said, in a very Cajun accent, "We done heard on da radio, dat the Germans done invaded Poland. We'll be G--Damned if they gonna take Echo!"
    Hey that's pretty good. :D

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    Man that is nice

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    Reposted to help with the photos in the first post being blocked by ads.
    Central Powers:
    Austria-Hungary

    -M.95 Mannlicher, Steyr, 1917. This one was converted postwar to 8x56R. Has a canvas sling & the Austrian rod rifle grenade w/friction pull primer. Below it is an OEWG marked M.95 bayonet & scabbard & an FGGY bayoonet/scabbard. Just below the rifle grenade is the special 8x50R blank used for firing that grenade.
    -M.88/90 Mannlicher, Steyr, 1890, cal. 8x50R. Rear sight sideplates are FGGY marked. Below it is a M.88 bayonet/scabbard/frog.
    -M1891 Mosin-Nagant, Tula, 1915, cal. 7.62x54R. That description should tell you this is a cheat. While the action is not from an Austrian conversion, the stock is. It is dated 1890-something (can't make out the last number) & has the Austrian wire swivels. Also has a hole in the bottom of the butt for the screw-in type Austrian swivel, and is marked W on the top of the butt & A on the right side. That's probably as close as I'll ever come to an Austrian M-N conversion.
    -M.95 Mannlicher carbine, Steyr, 1917, cal. 8x50R. Except for the blued bolt, this one seems pretty original. Has the stutzen type front band with bayonet lug & stacking hook, & screw head on the left side of the rifle. Below is a M.95 carbine bayonet w. scabbard/frog.
    -M.95 carbine, Budapest, barrel dated 1899, cal. 8x50R. This carbine is mismatched, with a Budapest receiver & a Steyr barrel. The interesting thing about it is it seems to have a karabiner style front band instead of a stutzen band. It has a bayonet lug, but no stacking hook, and the screw head is designed to enter from the right side of the rifle.
    -M.90 Extra-Korps Gewehr, cal. 8x50R, Steyr, barrel date 1902. Missing rear sling swivel.
    -M.90 cavalry carbine, Steyr, cal. 8x50R. Has no barrel date, and circle T firing proofs. This may have been a Bulgarian contract carbine or one of those made for commercial sale to other militaries. With a very old leather sling.
    -Zeitzunder or 'Guguruz' hand grenade with friction pull fuse. The cast iron fragmentation section interchanges with the rifel grenade up top.
    -M1898 revolver, Rast & Gasser, Vienna, 1916, cal. 8mm Gasser. 8 shot, the most wonderfully gawky & mechanical pistol I've handled.
    -M1912 Steyr-Hahn, Steyr, 1914, cal. 9x21.
    -Above is the Austrian version of the German Stahlhelm, in their tan color with fabric chinstrap.
    -Below is the version of the Austrian helmet that has the Berndorfer type liner instead of the German system. It's not a Berndorfer helmet, look to JPS's collection for those, but note how the rivets behind the ventilating lugs are much smaller and higher up than those on the other helmet.

    Germany

    -Gewehr 98, DWM 1915, cal.7,9x57. Repro sling, 98/05 bayonet below scabbard & frog above.
    -Kar. 98a, Erfurt, 1916. Below is unit marked 84/98 bayo. w. iron mounted leather scabbard.
    -Gew. 88, Spandau 1889. S marked, no overt signs of Turkish use.
    -Gew.88/05, Steyr, 1890. Czech made Turkish bolt, repro sling, M71/84 bayonet by OEWG above, scabbard below, .
    -Gew. 91, Erfurt 1893. Has a cartridge case stuck in the chamber that I haven't gotten around to yet, hence the open bolt, clip of 1903 dated 7,9x57 above.
    -Mosin-Nagant M1891, Chatellerault, France, 1895, cal. 7.62x54R. The sharp eyed will note that this rifle has a Finnish stock & sling. It is also fitted with the German bayonet adapter for this rifle as used in WWI. 1918 dated m84/98 bayonet above, scabbard below. Also my only German manufactured round of 7.62x54R ammunition above, made by Polte in Magdeburg in 1917.
    -7.7cm shrapnel shell with its separate loading shell case.
    -Mauser C96 pistol, Mauser Oberndorf, cal. 7.63x25. Wartime military accepted commercial style pistol, w/ stripper clip of 10 rounds of 7.63mm Mauser.
    -Below the C96 pistol is a 2cm Becker cannon round. The Becker was developed for use on zeppelins. While it saw limited use in the air, it was used as a ground based anti-aircraft cannon. Dated 1918.
    -Model 1914 n/A ball hand grenade & Model 1917 'egg' grenade. Below them Model 1917 stick ('potato masher') grenade.
    -Pistol-08 (Luger), DWM, 1914, cal. 9x19.
    -M16 Stahlhelm with fitted hessian cover.
    -M16 Stahlhelm shell, camo painted, with large, compression type fracture on the top.
    -M18 Stahlhelm.

    Bulgaria/Ottoman Empire (Turkey)

    -M.95 Mannlicher, Steyr, 1915-18?, cal. 8x50R. No Bulgarian crest, but has the Lion proofs on barrel & receiver. NCO bayonet below it is not Bulgarian marked, but I bought it from someone in Bulgaria, so it goes here for now.
    -M1887 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1889-90, cal. 9.5x60R. Last Mauser military blackpowder design. My only round of 9.5mm Turkish ammo is below it.
    -M1893 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1894-95, cal. 7.65x53. Original condition Turkish M93 with original looking sling. M1890 bayonet below.
    -M1903 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1908?, cal. 7.65x53. John Wall told me a few years ago that this was from the Turkish Macedonian Gendermerie contract and so was made in, I think, 1908. M1903 bayonet below.
    -FN Browning Model 1903, cal. 9mm Browning Long. Ottoman contract marked.
    -Turkish cut down visor stahlhelm. Most of these seem to have been based on M18 German helmets. This is based on an M16.
    Allies:
    Serbia/Montenegro/Russia:

    (NOTE: The two Mosin-Nagant rifles are the same length. The apparent difference is an optical illusion caused by the angle of the photograph.)
    From the top:
    -M1910 Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, Germany 1910-1912, cal. 7x57. Commercially marked model 1910 with Serbian proofs. In very rough shape, but I have searched long & hard for any Serbian WWI configuration rifle.
    -M-1891 Mosin-Nagant, 1917 Tula Peter the Great marked, mismatched but markings intact, no importer marks or importer serial #. No evident Balkan or Finn markings.
    -Remington bayonet for same.
    -M1907 Mosin-Nagant cavalry carbine, Izhevsk 1912. Stock well sanded & with inappropriate sling, but all matching.
    -M1895 Winchester, Russian contract. Not Spanish marked, came to me with two rounds of Finnish 7.62x54R in the butt trap, not that that signifies, but it was a nice surprise.
    -M1891 M-N, Tula 1899, Balkan import, Romanov birds more or less intact. Has the eagle over HI mark on the left side of chamber & receiver. Was sold to me as a Montenegrin rifle. Marks had fresh looking white goo in them when the rifle arrived. Goo obscured the markings, so was removed, revealing equally fresh looking marks stamped in the metal. Doesn't really resemble the pictures of JPS's I've seen, either. Long description, but that's to say that I have my doubts, but it's my Montenegrin until something better comes along.
    -M1895 Nagant revolver, 1913. Arsenal marks removed, but still has the old front sight.
    -M1911 Colt, caL. .45acp, commercial pistol with English Contract mark in Cyrillic on left side of frame, refinished.
    -Serbian Adrian helmet, fairly rare, made in France.
    -Sohlberg helmet, Finnish made, intended for the Russians, mostly used by the Finns.
    -Russian Adrian helmet, like the Serbian helmet , made in France.

    Next, Romania:

    -Md. 1892 Romanian Mannlicher. Steyr 1893, cal. 6.5x53R. Cleaning rod is mismatched but otherwise very nice. Bolt is Belgian marked in addition to Steyr marked. Bayonet scabbard & frog below.
    -Md. 1893 Romanian Mannlicher. Steyr 1897, cal. 6.5x53R. Serial # 33! In remarkable shape. I don't believe it was ever accepted by the Romanians; there is no crown above the model designation on the receiver. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Md. 1893 Romanian Mannlicher cavalry carbine. Steyr 1894, cal. 6.5x53R. These are rather difficult to come by.
    -Shell of Romanian 'Adrian' helmet with crest of King Ferdinand I

    France:

    -Mle1886 M.93 'Lebel', cal. 8x50R, MAC 1889. World's first smokeless powder military rifle. Above it is the early version of the Mle1886 bayonet 'Rosalie', with German silver hilt and quillion, below is the later version, with brass hilt & no quillion.
    -Mle 1907/15 'Berthier', cal. 8x50R, Delaunay Bellville, 1917. 3 shot rifle. Delaunay Belleville was a well known automobile manufacturer in France at the time.
    -Mle1890, MAC 1890. This was the first weapon of the 'Berthier' type. The 1890 cavalry carbine came in two styles (maybe more, ask those who know on the French forum to be sure), the other version had a different type of stock for the Cuirassiers. As a cavalry carbine it takes no bayonet.
    -Mle1892, MAS 1892. This modification of the Mle1890 to take a bayonet was for artilleryman, fortress troops, and anyone else who needed a rifle but not an infantry rifle. This one escaped the modifications made after the war to most of these, and still has provision for its cleaning rod. This cleaning rod is a repro. Above is the earlier version of the Mle1892 bayonet, with a rubberized composite handle, together with its scabbard & frog, below is the later version of the bayonet with the wooden handle.
    -Mle M. 16, MAC 1918. The Berthiers were modified to take five shot clips, resulting in the extended magazine you see here. That was the modification M. 16. This rifle was assembled at Chatellerault, but the receiver was made at the Etts. Continsouza, who were manufacturers of motion picture cameras and equipment.
    -Mle 15 'Adrian' helmet, painted in the mustard-khaki of the French Colonial troops. The crescent badge with RF, for Republique Francais, was used by Zouave & Spahi regiments, amongst others.
    -Mle 1873 revolver, Cal. 11mm, MAS 1883. Double-action revolver, which came out in the same year as the Colt SAA. nice handling revolver.
    -somewhat squashed holster for the Mle1892 revolver.
    -Mle 1892 revolver, cal. 8mm, MAS 1896. Has a loading gate, but also a cylinder which swings out to the right, for cavalry use. This one is naval marked.
    -Mle 15 Adrian helmet. This helmet bears the standard flaming bomb with RF of the French infantry. It is painted in the slate blue-gray color that was adopted after the initial horizon blue color turned out to be too conspicuous.

    Here are some more French rifles that didn't fit in the first photo, along with some other widgets, and since we have the room, more than the usual one or two helmets:

    -Mle1874 M. 80 M.14 'Gras'. The black powder 11mm Gras rifle was modified early in the war to accept the 8mm Lebel round as a war emergency measure. The barrel was reamed out and sleeved to 8mm, and a handguard was added. The t-backed bayonet & scabbard are for the Gras, but the bayonet is marked Steyr, 1881. I'm not sure if that is appropriate to go with a French rifle or not, maybe someone will enlighten me.
    -Fusil Automatique Mle 1917, cal. 8x50R, MAT 1917. The first semi-automatic issue infantry rifle used in combat. the Germans used both Mondragon & Mauser semi-autos in aircraft, and the French used Winchester M1907 & M1910 rifles in aircraft & the trenches, but this rifle was the first semi-auto built & issued by a military for its ground forces. utilizes a five round clip different from that of the Berthier M.16. This rifle, as with most Mle 1917s, was modified in the 1920s or 30s by having its gas system plugged, thus making it essentially into a bolt action.
    -'Petard de la Troisime armee'. improvised French grenade from early in the war. A piece of wood with a belt hook on the back. The block at the top has a nail stuck in it to act as a friction fuse. Pull the wire attached to the nail, nail rotates & grinds against the black powder starting a train, which burns down into the iron cylinder and explodes the main charge. Extra bits of iron are wired to the sides for more shrapnel.
    -Mle 1914 'bracelet' grenade. Cast iron sphere with a wooden plug fuze. The pin in the fuze would have been connected by a chain to a metal hoop worn around the wrist. When the grenade was thrown, the pin would be pulled by this chain to start the fuze. This gave some distance between the thrower & the grenade, as the fuzes had a tendency to go off prematurely.
    -Vivien-Bessier rifle grenade, without launcher, but with brass guard to protect the igniter. There are threads with better examples & excellent descriptions of how these work in the French board.
    -French P1 grenade.
    -Hotchkiss 37mm HE round, 1918. This is the type used in the infantry guns use by both the French & US troops, as well as in the Renault FT tanks when they were cannon equipped.
    More Mle 15 helmets:
    -Another infantry helmet, an early example which was originally painted horizon blue but has been overpainted in the darker color. compare with the light Horizon Blue artillery helmet below it.
    -The badge of the Engineers.
    -The badge of the Medical Corps.
    -The badge of the Chasseurs. most of the darker blue-gray has worn off this helmet, revealing the early light Horizon Blue.
    -That on the left has an artillery badge and is painted in the early, lighter horizon blue color.
    -The helmet of the Czech Legion, serving in France. I have no Czech section for WWI, so this may rest here.
    -Helmet of an Officier Medecin. Pre-war medical badge used by some officers instead of the wartime version, above.
    -Helmet of an Officier de Chasseurs. Some Chasseur Officers used the pre-war hunting horn emblem, which lacked the RF of the wartime version, above.
    -Helmet of the Colonial Infantry.

    Belgium/Luxembourg:

    M1889 Mauser, Fabrique Nationale. This particular 1889 was captured by the Germans & rechambered to 7,9x57. The chamber has the Prussian eagle firing proof. The stock does not have the Deutches Reich marking but does still have the Belgian Guarde Civique mark.
    -M1916 Mauser carbine. Manufacture D'Armes de L'Etat. Cal. 7.65x53. The Belgians standardized on this carbine during the war. No date, so it stays in the WWI section.
    -M1900 Luxembourg Mauser, Mauser Oberndorf, 1900, cal. 6.5x55. Very few of these about, a modification of the Swedish Mauser with a shorter barrel & different front band.
    -M15 Adrian helmet, with the lion of Belgium.

    Great Britain & Commonwealth:

    -Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mark I***, RSAF Enfield, Enfield Lock, England, 1911, cal. .303. Mark I series SMLE updated to *** standard between 1914-1919.
    -Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mark III*, BSA, Birmingham, England, 1917, cal. .303. Sporting the No. 35 Mk.I high explosive rod rifle grenade, marked G.H. & Co. 1918.
    -SMLE Mark I**I.P. A Mk. I SMLE updated to MK III configuration at Ishapore, India. The receiver was originally made at Enifeld in 1904 and the rifle was remanufactured to this pattern in 1917. With leather sling. Pattern 1907 bayonet, by Wilikinson, 1918 above, scabbard & Pattern 1914 frog, made of boiled leather, 1915, below.
    -Pattern 14 Mark I, Eddystone, 1916?, cal. .303. This P-14 is in original condition, with volley sights, and without the Mark I * markings.
    -Ross MkIII, Ross Rifle Co., Quebec, 1914, cal. .303. This rifle is C.E.F. marked. Mk.III bayonet below. The Mk. II & Mk. III bayonet will not interchange.
    -RossMkII***, Ross Rifle Co. Quebec, 1910. Rifle is U.S. and ordnance bomb marked, and came with a Kerr No-Buckl sling attached. Mk. II bayonet scabbard & frog (also U.S. marked) below.
    -Below the scabbard is a Mk.II charger with Dominion Canada 1916 dated Mk.VII ball. The charger is also Canadian marked.
    -Along the buttplates of the rifles is a .303 cloth bandolier dated 8-18.
    -No.5 Mk.I Mills grenade, base plug dated 9/16.
    -No.27 Mk.I smoke grenade, repainted, 1917, sans rod.
    -Webley Mk.VI, Philip Webley & Sons, Birmingham, 1916, cal. .455.
    -No.34 Mk.III grenade, 1917.
    -Colt Model 1911, Colt, Hartford, CT., R.A.F. contract, after May 1918, cal. .455.
    -Mk. I 'Brodie' helmet. Sand is mixed in the paint to reduce glare.

    Italy:

    -Fucile Modello 91 Carcano, Torre Annunziata, 1898, cal. 6.5x52. With M1891 bayonet, scabbard/frog.
    -Moschetto Modello 91 per Truppi Speciali (M91TS), Brescia 1917. Made with lug for special TS bayonet (pictured).
    -M91TS, Brescia 1915. TS with standard M91 bayonet lug. This should be in the WWII section, as these were converted after 1918, but I already took the picture this way, and you can see the two configurations side by side.
    -M1870/87/15 Vetterli, Brescia 1888, cal. 6.5x52. This is another example of the country's older blackpowder weapons being rechambered for the newer smokeless round as an emergency measure early in WWI.

    -Farina helmet. These helmets, with heavy armored browplates, were made for use by assault troops. JPS talked with me about this one a few years ago, and pointed me to some people who could look at it in person. Net result is, I'm somewhat dubious about the authenticity of the brain pan part of the helmet, but am pretty happy with the armored plate, even if it is of non-standard shape.
    -Glisenti M1910, Brescia, cal. 9mm Glisenti. Beautifully made pistol, but with frame design that does not allow for a powerful cartridge. Round is dimensionally identical to a 9mm Parabellum, but only about 75% as powerful. With holster.
    -Model 1889 Bodeo, Type II, G.A. Castelli, Brescia 1917, cal. 10.35mm. Enlisted mens' version with folding trigger.
    -Beretta Model 1915, Pietro Beretta, Brescia, cal. 9mm Glisenti. Beretta's first military pistol design. Originally made in .32acp, this version is chambered in the 9mm Glisenti round. These were issued to both the army & the police. This example is police marked.
    -Italian Mo.15-16 Lippmann helmet. The Lippmann was a simplified copy of the Adrian. THis helmet is fitted with a cloth cover from the 9th Infantry Regiment, with a symbol for the machine gun company on the side.

    Japan/Brazil:

    -Type 38, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo, cal. 6.5x50SR. Early production Type 38, although I haven't seen anything which could tell me if this serial # dates to WWI period or not. Missing dust cover. Original sling.
    -Type 30 Rifle, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo. Royal Chysanthemum has been overstruck with arsenal mark, meaning this rifle was sold out of Japanes service. This could be one of the many rifles of this type supplied to Russia in WWI, or even to Great Britain. There are no marks to indicate one way or the other, though.
    -Type 44 carbine, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo. These folding bayonet carbines began to be produced in 1911. Again this is an early model, but I know of no way to date it to the WWI period.
    -Yes, Brazil entered WWI in 1917, although it's unlikely that any Brazilian Mausers saw action. Brazil's navy, including her two dreadnoughts, took over South Atlantic convoy responsibilities, and Brazil seized German assets in the country. Brazilian M1908 Mauser, DWM, Berlin, cal. 7x57. with leather action cover, bayonet & scabbard.

    Portugal/Greece:

    -Shell of Portuguese pattern mild steel helmet. This was patterned after early private purchase helmets used by British officers. This one doesn't have the ventilating holes in the sides, but has been ventilated by someone using it for bayonet practice at some point.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1904 'Vergueiro', DWM, Berlin, 1904-1908, cal. 6.5x58. Portuguese troops on the Western Front used British weapons, but this was the standard Portuguese rifle, and was used by them in Africa, as well as by South African troops, to whom the Portuguese supplied a large number. This is the only Vergueiro I have encountered with the original finish on the stock, most of those from Africa & elsewhere have been well sanded. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1904, DWM, Berlin, 1904-08. This one is different in that it is D.M.G.L.M. marked, in English, General Military Directorate of Laurenco Marques. So this rifle was assigned to Portuguese East Africa, where they were used by Portuguese, and, when captured, by German troops. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1896, Steyr 1899, cal. 6.5x53R. These short rifles were ordered for the Portuguese Navy & were based on the Romanian Mannlicher rifles. They even have the Romanian final inspection proofs on them, as does the bayonet, which I acquired from Portugal, below.
    -Espingarda Modelo 1886 'Kropatschek', Steyr 1886, cal. 8x56R Krop. These would still have been in use with colonial forces in WWI. Bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Model 1903 Mannlicher-Schoenauer, Steyr 1907, cal. 6.5x54. Greek rifle with original sling, not easy to find. Bayonet is for this rifle but is a cheat, as it was made in Italy & so is post WWI in origin.

    China/Siam:

    Both of these countries declared war on the Central Powers in 1917, and both of their activities were limited to seizing German ships & other assets within their borders.
    -Hanyang type rifle, cal. 7.92x57. This is one of the many Chinese copies of the Gew. 88, without the barrel jacket. Hanyang Arsenal produced some of the best versions of this rifle, hence its name amongst collectors. This example has no markings as to the maker. I made the guy climb the ladder in the showroom of Springfield Sporters & get it for me because I liked the markings on the butt. It is extremely beat.
    -Hanyang type carbine. An equally beat carbine length version of the above rifle.
    -M1903 Siamese Mauser, Koishikawa Arsenal, Tokyo, cal. 8x52R. Converted form the original 8x50R. Bayonet & scabbard below.

    United States:

    -Model of 1903, Springfield Armory, Springfield, MA. 1909, cal. .30-06. Springfield '03 with single screw stock in pre-WWI configuration. Some of the parts are parkerized from later mixing & matching. Scruffy 1906 dated M1905 bayonet below.
    -Model of 1917, Eddytstone Arsenal, Philadelphia, PA. 1918, cal. .30-06. Late war Eddystone with what's left of original finish. Lend-lease marked for Canada. Kerr No-Buckl sling, bayonet & scabbard below.
    -Model of 1898 Krag-Jorgensen, Springfield Armory, Springfield, MA 1901, Cal. .30-40. Krags were not only used in the U.S. for training & guard duty, but also made it to France in the hands of railway troops. Mills web sling.
    -Colt Model 1917 Revolver, Colt, Hartford, CT. late 1917-early 1918, cal. .45ACP. This is an early Colt that cannot be fired without the half-moon clips.
    -Coll Model 1911, Colt, Hartford, CT. 2003, cal.45 ACP. This is a cheat. It's one of Colt's newly made 'continuation of WWI production' pistols, with WWI era 1911 features & markings.
    -Colt Model 1909 Revolver, Colt, Hartford, CT. 1909-11, cal. .45 Long Colt (modified). This example is a military revolver with a cylinder & crane from a commercial gun.
    -Smith & Wesson Model 1917, Smith & Wesson, Springfield, MA. 1917-18, cal. .45 ACP.
    -M1909 holster, for any of the revolvers.
    -On the right is the U.S. M1917 helmet, based on the British Mk. I. This is a U.S. made example (you can tell by the rivets on the chinstrap swivels indside) which has sawdust mixed in the paint to reduce glare. Marked with the red diamond of the Fifth Infantry Division.
    On the left is what remains of my grandfather's M1917 helmet. He was in an artillery unit that was attached to several divisions during its stay in France. On the sides, at the edge of the rim, you might be able to make out two small loops of wire. There are three small holes on each side in this area to hold these loops. They are for a device called the Wilmer eye shield. Many helmets were modified for this device, although it was not generally issued.

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    awe inspiring to say the least. thank you sir for posting.

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    Any chance of close-ups of the Cyrillic marked 45?

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    I still hate you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooinek View Post
    Any chance of close-ups of the Cyrillic marked 45?
    Recent thread on these on the main forum, I put some close-ups there: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...act-sold-today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustaf B View Post
    I still hate you
    The feeling is still mutual. I thought of asking you to bring your jeeps & ambulance to help us move, but I'm not moving to Idaho, and I think that's where things would wind up, to be near the stuff you got past Olga

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    great pics and collection,


    thanks for sharing!!
    what's so funny about peace love and understanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    The feeling is still mutual. I thought of asking you to bring your jeeps & ambulance to help us move, but I'm not moving to Idaho, and I think that's where things would wind up, to be near the stuff you got past Olga
    Yes, that was pretty smart on your part.
    Best
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    We're moving this year as well.........UGH!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPS View Post
    We're moving this year as well.........UGH!!!!!
    Maybe you can find a couple of out-of-work museum curators to help you. I cannot imagine trusting your collection to the the ordinary Mayflower or Allied people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandook View Post
    Maybe you can find a couple of out-of-work museum curators to help you. I cannot imagine trusting your collection to the the ordinary Mayflower or Allied people!
    I don't know about JPS, but the movers aren't touching my collection. I've made my own crates and have my own crew to move that. Of course, JPS is on a different plane with the amount & types of things to move in his collection, but I can feel his pain somewhat in this regard.

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    Can you say ...... U-Haul?

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    Can you say U-Haul X 96 trips???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPS View Post
    Can you say U-Haul X 96 trips???
    OK, now you've got the helmets & bayonets, how you going to move the rest of it? ;-)

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    :>(

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    That is some collection.
    "The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."- James Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by son of cold war kid 96 View Post
    That is some collection.
    Thanks for all of your comments on my threads, son of. Make sure to look through JPS' sticky threads here to see 'some collection'. Welcome to Gunboards!

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    Hello son of cold war kid 96,

    These are just a few items tplan had out of the closet to dust off when he decided to take a few photos. You should see his REAL COLLECTION!

    Glad this one surfaced again John. Now it's where it has always belonged.

    I'm green with envy!

    Warmest regards,

    John

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    JPS, thanks again. This thread is already stickied, it's part of the member's collections sticky Bayonetcollector put together a few years ago when he was cleaning up the stickies, etc. However you & BC decide you want to set things up. I just don't to be a cause of clutter.
    Everything's in storage right now. I hope before long to be somewhere where I will have the space and time to take new photos for these threads. I appreciate everyone's comments and support. This forum has a group of folks that can't be beat.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    JPS, thanks again. This thread is already stickied, it's part of the member's collections sticky Bayonetcollector put together a few years ago when he was cleaning up the stickies, etc. However you & BC decide you want to set things up. I just don't to be a cause of clutter.
    Everything's in storage right now. I hope before long to be somewhere where I will have the space and time to take new photos for these threads. I appreciate everyone's comments and support. This forum has a group of folks that can't be beat.

    John
    dunno 'bout that. The more you guys post the awesome collections and fantastic finds; the more I'd like to beat you.....

    regards

    jealous jebber
    pure jebberish

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebber View Post
    dunno 'bout that. The more you guys post the awesome collections and fantastic finds; the more I'd like to beat you.....

    regards

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    +1

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    [QUOTE=tplan Thanks for all of your comments on my threads, son of. Make sure to look through JPS' sticky threads here to see 'some collection'. Welcome to Gunboards! [/QUOTE]

    No problem tplan. I'll definitely look at the other threads.
    Last edited by son of cold war kid 96; 04-09-2013 at 04:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    JPS, thanks again. This thread is already stickied, it's part of the member's collections sticky Bayonetcollector put together a few years ago when he was cleaning up the stickies, etc. However you & BC decide you want to set things up. I just don't to be a cause of clutter.
    Everything's in storage right now. I hope before long to be somewhere where I will have the space and time to take new photos for these threads. I appreciate everyone's comments and support. This forum has a group of folks that can't be beat.

    John


    John........are you per chance another thick skulled Irishman?.......Yes?.......No?........Maybe?...... ..Clutter???

    I could care less about what BC, Tuco or Vic himself have done with this or any other similar thread that you started. The primary reason why I "stickied" this thread was to serve as a daily reminder of exactly how much we all hate you. Just as important is the fact that this thread is confirmation of ALL of the various reasons why we should HATE you!

    From the "Hater" to the "Hate-ee" ...... Thank you very much for sharing your mediocre excuse for a collection with us.

    Love & Kisses, Hugs & Hickies,

    JPS

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