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Thread: 41 Swiss ammo

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    Default 41 Swiss ammo

    Guy brings in a vetterli today wanting ammo. I can't find any for him. Just wondering if any of you guys know where I can direct him for some .41 Swiss rimfire ammo.

    I'm not sure which vetterli he has. Ser # was 120XXX range in case anyone is curious.

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    Default 41 Swiss ammo availability

    To the best of my knowledge there is no commercially manufactured Swiss ammo and it hasn't been loaded or sold through commercial c hannels for a lon g time. There may be some original military or comercial manufacture around if you look hard enough but most of this is considered collectible and most I have heard of in the attempt to use resulted in just duds. Most of us who want to shoot these rifles convert them to center fire and then use other brass cases to make up 41 Swiss brass. I use .348 Winchester re-formed and trimmed brass and .44 mag lead bullets for single shot range work. Go to Swissrifles.com for some excellent information on bolt conversion and cartridge making. Good luck, Joe

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    I have two Vetterlis and I converted both to centrefire
    Go to www.swissrifles.com
    click on Vetterlis
    click on other Veterli links
    Click on conversions to centrefire
    This will give explicit instructions on the process.
    www.buffaloarms.com has the dies, brass, and bullets.
    One caveat when reloading, overall cartridge length must be EXACT.

    The only other practical choice is to hang it over the fireplace, and that would be a shame.

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    I found a spare bolt after about a year of looking and had that one converted to centerfire. It works on all my Swiss Vetterli's and I can leave the guns bolts in original condition.

    Vern

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    Yeah, I didn't want to butcher my bolt, so finding 10.4mm Swiss/.41 Swiss Rimfire is an ongoing mission. There are two major types available out there: Original Swiss Army cartridges, headstamped with a Swiss Cross, and American commercial loads from the 1920s. I always inquire as to where the rounds were found and if possible how they were stored. I find the original Swiss loads are more reliable, but that may be because of better storage for much of their lives. The Swiss stuff runs $7.50-$15 per round, usually sold singly or in small groups. I don't know much about the history of the 1920s era commercial loads, the cardboard boxes always seem to be long gone and they are usually just jumbled into paper or plastic containers. Often their prices are lower, and sometimes you can score a "big" lot of twenty or fifty rounds.

    At least theoretically it is possible to create home-made rimfire cartridges for them, though I have never attempted this.

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    A box of 20 made by Winfield Arms Corp. L.A.,CA just sold on the big auction site for $120. That's only six bucks a pop.
    Marrage doesn't just happen, you have to get out there and expose yourself to it, you know, like chicken pox.

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    Default 41 swiss

    the swiss bolt looks like simple turning with some bridgport work.

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    i have a full box of remington [red/green box] that i will let go for $250

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    Default conversion

    the conversion can be reversed as the hole in bolt will not effect the rim fire that you cant get.and 348 winchester can be made into 41 swiss in one stroke and cut.:D

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    I wouldn't consider a firing pin hole in the bolt face as a "butcher job"
    You have two choices
    1. convert it and shoot it
    2. Hang it over the fireplace, because rimfire ammo is NOT avaliable.

    I prefer to shoot mine.

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    Where can I get a fireplace, the current environment laws here made it a lot more difficult to get one. (btw the gun is free to have here)

    Guisan.

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