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    Hard to believe that this is really quiz number 180! It seems that I am a forum member for quite a time! I was always amazed by the great knowledge of so many members of this forum, who so often very quickly found the answers for questions, of which I had thought that it would need a very long time for the correct answer to be posted. But this quiz is different to the former ones. Since Google made it easy to find pictures I had to find another way to make a quiz. All other quizzes/articles, I wrote up to now, had been based on photos. As I was not able to post them in a different way, I had to make new ones, which was pretty difficult, as it was not easy to find a text, pointing in just one direction without making the answer too easy. This one is the first of the new kind. It is a really big one, in fact nearly 280 pages plus really many photos. It is a riddle with two parts.

    Here is part 1/2:


    58 were sent to fight and 29 returned home.

    I want to know



    who they were,
    a date and
    a location, please.

    After you will have found the answers I will ask one more question.
    Have fun and a nice weekend!
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    Looks like a tough one kh. Thanks so much for starting a new one that will challenge the experts (I'm not one of them!) I'm looking forward to the 280 page history lesson when it is solved (or everyone gives up.)

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    nwellons

    thanks for your kind words!
    I am VERY sure that several here will not give up . The quiz is not as tough as it seems!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kh View Post
    58 were sent to fight and 29 returned home.
    That's too hard... The Germans are known for their cryptic numeric statements...

    "And the little tailor hastened to cut himself a girdle, stitched it, and embroidered on it in large letters, "Seven at one stroke!"...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    That's too hard... The Germans are know for their cryptic numeric statements...

    "And the little tailor hastened to cut himself a girdle, stitched it, and embroidered on it in large letters, "Seven at one stroke!"...."

    It's an enigma.
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    OK, I will give a first hint:

    58 were sent to fight, 30 saw the face of the enemy and 29 returned home.
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    Does it have anything to do with submarines?

    Or hull numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Murvihill View Post
    Does it have anything to do with submarines?

    Or hull numbers?

    Hi David

    sorry, no, it has nothing to do with submarines or hull numbers.
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    Here is the second hint:

    58 were sent to fight, 30 saw the face of the enemy and 29 returned home.
    They came from the sea.
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    I've had two ideas but neither of them fit but I am still thinking....

    At least it is fun to ponder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwellons View Post
    I've had two ideas but neither of them fit but I am still thinking....

    At least it is fun to ponder.
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    If it is fun it is OK!
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    Would it happen to be the British raid in North Africa to try to kill Rommel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WLD Bill View Post
    Would it happen to be the British raid in North Africa to try to kill Rommel ?
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    Geoffrey Keyes is interesting, though, if I remember right, he had 59 men first. But sorry, it is not the British raid in North Africa to try to kill Rommel.
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    Great Marianas Turkey shoot - TF 58??

    On my way out the door....WAG & quick Google FU....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahtu View Post
    Great Marianas Turkey shoot - TF 58??

    On my way out the door....WAG & quick Google FU....

    Pahtu.
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    TF58 and the US lost 29 planes? Great idea, I did not have that air battle in mind. But sorry, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kh View Post
    Pahtu

    TF58 and the US lost 29 planes? Great idea, I did not have that air battle in mind. But sorry, no.
    I will keep searching!

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    I am very happy to see you back KH
    If it were very simple I would think you were talking about the Doolittle raid, but I know from experience the quiz is never simple !

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    Many thanks, cruisey!

    It seems the quiz is not easy and I am not really sad about this. No, it is not the Doolittle Raid.
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    Hint 3:
    58 were sent to fight, 30 saw the face of the enemy and 29 returned home.
    They came from the sea and two of them drowned.
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    I'm still pondering, kh. Since there are not many guesses posted (lots of wrong guesses like mine, I suspect) I thought I would at least add my wrong ones from the fun of it. As clues have developed, my earlier ones are more wrong.

    First was Patton's rescue mission - Task force Barum
    Second was Paratroop attack on Belgium Fort Eben.
    Today I thought of the midget sub attack on Pearl Harbor with the drowned clue.

    Maybe these will at least amuse you and others who are trying.

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    Anything to do with the Brandenburg Division?
    Or Robey Leibbrandt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwellons View Post
    I'm still pondering, kh. Since there are not many guesses posted (lots of wrong guesses like mine, I suspect) I thought I would at least add my wrong ones from the fun of it. As clues have developed, my earlier ones are more wrong.

    First was Patton's rescue mission - Task force Barum
    Second was Paratroop attack on Belgium Fort Eben.
    Today I thought of the midget sub attack on Pearl Harbor with the drowned clue.

    Maybe these will at least amuse you and others who are trying.

    nwellons,

    unfortunately they are all wrong, very sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Murvihill View Post
    Anything to do with the Brandenburg Division?
    Or Robey Leibbrandt?
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    the Olympic boxer Robey Leibbrandt is a very interesting person and worth a quiz, but unfortunately it is not this one.
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    I'd guess bombers/ fighters launched from a carrier. Easy for them to split up and half never find the target. But can't find much.

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    It's obviously Ragnar Lodbrock's first raid on King Ælla.

    Good to see you and the quizzes back, KH.
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    Frogmen clearing/marking beach obstacles before D-Day, June 6, 1944.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch5690 View Post
    I'd guess bombers/ fighters launched from a carrier. Easy for them to split up and half never find the target. But can't find much.
    Sorry, no, mitch5690, they are no bombers/ fighters launched from a carrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    It's obviously Ragnar Lodbrock's first raid on King Ælla.

    Good to see you and the quizzes back, KH.
    Thanks you, tplan.
    Ragnarr Loðbrók, "Ragnar Shaggy-Breeches" is a nice idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VA-Vet View Post
    Frogmen clearing/marking beach obstacles before D-Day, June 6, 1944.
    Sorry, VA-Vet, they are no Frogmen clearing/marking beach obstacles before D-Day.
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    58 were sent to fight...but only two of them were drowned. Does this have to do with the High Seas Fleet at Jutland?

    ETA- Nevermind. I got my numbers wrong.
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    KH now that i think i belieave you are correct that he had 59.Glad to see you are going strong.
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    I will give you Hint 4:
    58 were sent to their first fight, 30 saw the face of the enemy and 29 returned home.
    They came from the sea and two of them drowned.
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    Churchill tanks, 19 August 1942, Dieppe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    Churchill tanks, 19 August 1942, Dieppe.

    Excellent, big congratulations, absolutely correct!
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    Part 2 of the quiz needs some research. The second question is:



    Molotov took a plane to Great Britain in 1942. He was accompanied by several men and one female person. Please tell me her name.
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    This is a little too obvious a guess, but it looks like her. Was it Polina Zhemchuzhina?
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    Gee, guys... You are truly intimidating with your knowledge of obscure facts. I only have a book on that plane (TB-7/Pe-8) and that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Gee, guys... You are truly intimidating with your knowledge of obscure facts. I only have a book on that plane (TB-7/Pe-8) and that's all.
    Karl-Heinz is the king of leading people well out into the weeds looking for esoteric facts. My head still hurts when I think about the Brest-Litovsk Treaty quiz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    This is a little too obvious a guess, but it looks like her. Was it Polina Zhemchuzhina?
    No, tplan, sorry, Molotov´s wife was not with him in London.
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    Okay,
    i have one more random guess before going back to looking. Was she Olga Lepeshinskaya?
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    Nick, I agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tplan View Post
    Okay,
    i have one more random guess before going back to looking. Was she Olga Lepeshinskaya?

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    she was new to me and I did not know that she was a friend of Molotov´s wife, thank you for the history lesson! No, the woman I meant was no dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kh View Post
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    she was new to me and I did not know that she was a friend of Molotov´s wife, thank you for the history lesson! No, the woman I meant was no dancer.
    And she was supposedly Stalin's girlfriend. I know the description says the woman was one of Molotov's secretaries, but the few grabs I could get with her face looked just enough like both those women to try. Back to the drawing board.

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