Where have all the M-38 stocks gone??
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    frown Where have all the M-38 stocks gone??

    SO I just picked up a 1942 Izhvesk M-38 with a butchered M-38 stock... well, for the number of people that are putting their M-44s in ATI and other "sporting" stocks, you would think there would be planet of stocks available.... NADA. There are very few that I can find on fleabay, and none on gunbroker. * sigh* 91/30 stocks are plentiful, but not so for the carbines. Any ideas where I can find one to get my new acquisition on the track to proper configuration?
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    I bought a bubba'd M38 carbine.....years ago - Waited...waited.....saw a fleabay auction selling nice M38 stocks.....arrived was a M44 stock.....seller told me the pic on ebay was just a stock photo....I left him poor feedback....

    Bought a better M44 stock and placed the M38 action in it....and sold the piece for what it was.

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    I hear ya.... I'm almost to the point of just buying a 91/30 stock and cutting it down (did I say that???) Its nuts. I'm watching an m44 stock now, but ... I may just wait... Ive gotten lucky on a lot of flea-bay sales.... but patience is not one of my best virtues! I have a hard time justifying paying more for a stock than I paid for my last m44!
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    Cutting down a 91/30 stock is not as simple as it sounds. There is a LOT of wood work you have to do to get the barrel bands to go back on, plus you have to fit the caps, mill out the front sling slot and one for the barrel band spring. Then finish it somehow. I did one just for fun on a spare stock... it was cheap entertainment but many hours of work.

    Just keep looking, one will turn up eventually, someone will decide to sell off their spare parts. I always have a spare stock or two on hand if I happen to pick up a Bubba special, I'm sure there are many others sitting on spares too.

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    IIRC many many came in M44 stocks so it would not be unusual for yours to be in an M44 stock. I have an M38 in and M44 stock that I wanted to replace but had the same problem finding one and just accepted that thats the way it was issued so I'd live with it. At some point I will find an M38 in a M38 stock with some other nicety about it, buy it and sell the other...trade up! Good excuse to buy another gun! ....not like we need an excuse.

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    The Soviets pretty well stopped making M38 stocks when (or maybe well before) the M44 hit production - almost all refurbs got m44 stocks, so not too many around.

    Nothing wrong with putting an M38 in an M44 stock - good enough for the Red Army!

    The most interesting are the M44 stocks made from M38 stocks, with a hand-chiseled groove for the bayonet.

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    There was just a guy on Gunbroker who had 7 of them. They are gone now but they were 38's and did not look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalin's Ghost View Post
    The Soviets pretty well stopped making M38 stocks when (or maybe well before) the M44 hit production - almost all refurbs got m44 stocks, so not too many around.

    Nothing wrong with putting an M38 in an M44 stock - good enough for the Red Army!

    The most interesting are the M44 stocks made from M38 stocks, with a hand-chiseled groove for the bayonet.
    They were still making M38 stocks for the limited number of M38s produced in 1945. I've seen several '45 M38 stocks and own a bolt mismatch but otherwise original matching '45 that's in an M38 type stock.








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    How difficult is it to find a M38 in a first variation stock with the screwed in sling tabs? Did they come on 1939 and 1940's only ? Heard they were out there, but never seen one. Even when they were imported years back, never came across one.

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    You rifle is probably too late to have the first variation. Yours would probably have had the half slot insert in front and nothing in the back slot. They are out there. Contact Rick Reich. He might have something in his enormous stash. Also, how hard are they to find............you may see your first unicorn first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp06 View Post
    How difficult is it to find a M38 in a first variation stock with the screwed in sling tabs? Did they come on 1939 and 1940's only ? Heard they were out there, but never seen one. Even when they were imported years back, never came across one.
    They made em in 1941 as well!





    Not first variation tho....

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    I have a 1940 M38 still wearing it's original early style stock. No import mark, so who knows, but I also don't buy stories which is why I paid $170 for it 5 years ago.

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    I have a '39 in M38 type 2 stock with screwed eschucions and a '45 in m38 hardwood stock with half liners front and rear. Also several 41-44s with m38 laminated stocks. These are refurbs so I guess all's fair....

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    This is a type 53 in a cut down 91/30 stock, I still have the one it came with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallased View Post
    There was just a guy on Gunbroker who had 7 of them. They are gone now but they were 38's and did not look bad.
    DANG IT.... Oh well there is always tomorrow

    Thanks Guys, I may have actually got a lead on a decent stock (M44 or M38)

    I do have a refurbed M38 in an M38 Stock, and 2 M44's... I bought this project to help a buddy jump into the addiction which is Modern Sporting Rifles [ now that PA finally made Semis' legal for hunting...]

    I may get lucky and find a decent stock at the Harrisburg Gun Show tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath!
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