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    Default M28/76 barrel markings thread

    Can we get a thread going on the different styles of markings found on 28/76's? I think there are at least 6 different styles, but I haven't found one post that details the different markings all together.

    Can the guys who have these post up the different markings? If it has been posted already, just say that you have XXXX marking and I'll see if we can get a statistically accurate guess as to what the quantities may be. Having a sample size of about 900 rifles makes the probability to establish a range of certainties per marking easier.
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    Here is mine.
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    the 11214 has small fontClick image for larger version. 

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    Converted from M28/30s or from M28/57sClick image for larger version. 

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    You guys have all the cool marked ones. Mine has nothing on it. I kinda feel left out now.
    It does however have a serial number on the left side of the barrel shank just above the wood line.

    Mine is left handed with a scope base.
    Sorry for the somewhat poor quality, but this is the only picture I have that shows the barrel shank:

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    Here are my two contributions. One is 1939 M28/30{76} and one is 1969 28/76 . The third one is strictly a 1935 M28/30 four digits off of Alsky pictured one above. Almost forgot how nice that 1935 is. A very nice rescued rifle that survived barely, from the north woods of Wi.
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    This is mine. Left handed with scope mount.
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    My only one, still in model 57 configuration. No signs of SA ownership, could be private update.




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    Pretty nice stuff CH, Wow those are nice! Regards, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy33oak View Post
    This is mine. Left handed with scope mount.

    Are you a leftie ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy33oak View Post
    This is mine. Left handed with scope mount.
    Nice to see another left handed model. That is the main reason I bought the one I have. To make a long story short, I got a injury to my right eye years ago. So even though I am right handed, I have to shoot left handed.

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    [QUOTE=bplvr;6471346]
    Quote Originally Posted by mossy33oak View Post
    This is mine. Left handed with scope mount.
    Yes sir I am

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    [QUOTE=mossy33oak;6475226]
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    Yes sir I am
    He shoots left handed, limp wristed style.
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    [QUOTE=USMCsean;6475818]
    Quote Originally Posted by mossy33oak View Post
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    Yes sir I am
    He shoots left handed, limp wristed style.
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    Here is a pic of my 28-76



    I wonder how difficult it would be to find a correct scope and mount? And how much it would cost - There used to be a fellow on GB who sold mounts that fit, but I believe he no longer makes them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CH View Post
    My only one, still in model 57 configuration. No signs of SA ownership, could be private update.
    Dang, both rifles real cool....that Riihimaki......

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    Consecutively serialed ASEV's...
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    not sure.I grabbed one when they first came in, not knowing that they were R/L. I got a rightey and I shoot left.

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    Wow! Those are awesome...especially the PSV marked and 1973.


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    "Here is mine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBulge75 View Post
    Wow! Those are awesome...especially the PSV marked and 1973.
    Thanks Josh. Please post a couple of picture of that beauty of yours. It is a variant that has not been posted here yet.

    Al's Edit - While I was typing you did exactly that. Super nice gun. Wow
    Now I'm going to have to clean that rifle!!

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    Thanks Al!

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    I have # 11240. Just like Alsky's top picture in his post #4 above.
    Looking for PU scope # Б05115

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahtu View Post
    I wonder how difficult it would be to find a correct scope and mount? And how much it would cost - There used to be a fellow on GB who sold mounts that fit, but I believe he no longer makes them.

    Pahtu.

    In my online searching, I have seen references to someone who made mounts that fit the base on the top of some of these, but like you said, it appears he no longer makes them.
    I would love to have a rail to fit the base that would accept regular weaver style rings. I figure it is such a small and niche market, it is not worth anyone's time and money to make a mount.
    Finding a original one, from what I have seen, is very very difficult and expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepsAndGuns View Post
    In my online searching, I have seen references to someone who made mounts that fit the base on the top of some of these, but like you said, it appears he no longer makes them.
    I would love to have a rail to fit the base that would accept regular weaver style rings. I figure it is such a small and niche market, it is not worth anyone's time and money to make a mount.
    Finding a original one, from what I have seen, is very very difficult and expensive.
    Thank you for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alsky View Post
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    Yep, could be a rebarreled civilian sales rifle. Why bother changing the numbers?

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    Sean since your thread has more than M28/76 "markings" posted in it I can add some oddities: A pair of 1967 dated rifles that have 4 holes added to their rear sight bases!Click image for larger version. 

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    Front sight base with threaded hole added ( rifle # 71995 dated 1934 see above). I would guess to ad a "locking screw) to the windage setting.Click image for larger version. 

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    This picture of the (71995) receive sight has markings similar to a sight posted on the boards a few weeks back. Can a member repost the information about the name of the unit (looks like) SovPr as I forgot to take notes that day? Click image for larger version. 

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    These are great. In addition to the previously mentioned (1973, PSV, etc.)....that 1972 and Kuopio District are just awesome.

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    Good stuff gents. Keep it coming. I like the responses so far. I know there has to be more. After a little bit, I'd like to get members to respond what they have. I'll organize the thread to keep a statistical tally on what people have. Maybe a pattern will emerge, maybe not. But it might be cool to see what is common and uncommon.
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    The Finns continued to be frugal in the custom building in a lot of these rifles. I have encountered some rifles that have trigger adjustment screws added. These seem to be most prevalent on the 1970 & 1972 dated rifles but I have also seen one example each of a 1967, a no date and a 1976 with this feature. The armorer that added this feature much have been given a box of oddball nuts & screws to work with.Click image for larger version. 

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    There were a number of different receiver sights used and in most but not all cases it seems that they were attached to the rifle so that there was a uniform location of the eye piece. This picture will show 2 different depths of machining in the receivers to accommodate a short arm and a long arm. I have also noticed different thicknesses of the attachment arms on similar looking sights. And the screw attachment screws were not all consistently located either. Click image for larger version. 

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    The distances from muzzle to front sight can also vary. With 5/8" seeming to be the norm on late 60's dated barrels also the 5/8" measurement has shown up on a couple of early 70's barrels too. Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alsky View Post
    The distances from muzzle to front sight can also vary. With 5/8" seeming to be the norm on late 60's dated barrels also the 5/8" measurement has shown up on a couple of early 70's barrels too.
    I had someone comment on my thread here: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...ts-a-mile-high See post number 8
    They said the distance had to do with weather it was a M28 barrel or M39 barrel.

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    M28/76s converted from the old M28/30 rifles measure a front sight set back of 1/2". The M28/76 rifle pictured above that was that was built by using a 1940's M39 rifle has a sight set-back of 1" which is the norm for an M39 barrel. There are 2 or 3 other members on Gunboards that also have M28/76 rifles converted form M39s with 1"set backs. I have not seen another type of barrel on these rifles with a 1" set back. Of the rifles with the 5/8"+ or - set backs as I stated above these most often have shown up on late 60's dated barrels also the 5/8" measurement has shown up on a couple of early 70's barrels too. Since the sights are not set back an inch from the muzzle on these rifles I wouldn't consider them "M39" barrels. These late 60s & early 70s barrels are probably late date M28/30 rifles that were converted to M28/76 configuration or if not they were unused barrels brought out of inventory for the M28/76 project. If they were unused inventory were they earmarked for use on M39 rifles or M28/30 rifles ??

    Most all of the 1976 & 1977 dated barrels that I have encountered have the sight set back 1/2".

    BTW there has been a lot of information posted on the net about bore diameters, chamber & throats. Some good some bad. I have slugged a lot of bores and tried chambering a number of different types of ammo in a good number of these rifles and found there are some consistencies in specs as far as serial number groups and date ranges but there seems to be exceptions in every group. I have encountered a D166 marked M28/76 rifle that headspaced fine but the bolt would just barley close on commercial ammo and would not close on surplus.
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    I believe that I had posted a picture of threaded muzzles in the past but I think they would be appropriate in the M28/76 thread. Threaded for silencers? All have scope blocks, odd sling swivel markings and all were used hard. These have serial numbers only.Click image for larger version. 

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