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    Florida firm pushing sales of its American-made AK-47

    Howard AltmanHoward Altman, Times Staff Writer

    Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:00am

    If there is ever a zombie apocalypse in Florida, you might want to head to the Palm Bay headquarters of Inter Ordnance Inc.

    Just down the road from a Krispy Krunchy fried chicken store, in a nondescript east coast business park, the 60,000-square-foot factory produces about 2,500 AK-47 rifles a month.

    Ulrich "Uli" Wiegand, a German immigrant who started the company, sees a bright future for the American-made version of the Kalashnikov, the classic Soviet-bloc weapon with the iconic banana-shaped ammo magazine. It is the world's most popular weapon. There were as many as 150 million Kalashnikovs as of 2012, according to Aaron Karp, senior consultant to the Small Arms Survey, a Geneva-based research institute.

    But Wiegand wants to put Florida on the map as the place where the best AKs are made, combining modern American manufacturing prowess with the original design by Russian Lt. Gen. Mikhail Kalashnikov. With the help of a Tampa-registered company called Purple Shovel, he wants to double his capacity and his workforce, and switch the bulk of his business from consumers to governments.

    "We are taking the best features of American manufacturing and infusing them into an AK-47, with 100 percent American-made parts," said Wiegand, who moved the company to Florida from North Carolina in 2013.

    Purple Shovel is the exclusive government distributor of the company's AK-47s.

    To reach his goal, Wiegand has invested about $5 million in the plant and estimates he needs to invest another $3 million to $5 million for new equipment and work stations.

    The investments have garnered the attention of the Florida Space Coast Economic Development Commission.

    "Their investment further enhances our manufacturing base and provides a positive impact for the region," said Lynda Weatherman, the commission's president and CEO.

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    It's a move that has some local gun manufacturers scratching their heads.

    "I don't see that as a wise investment," said Greg Frazee, owner of the Tampa-based Trident Arms.

    Frazee said he prefers to stick with the American-designed civilian line of rifles known as the AR-15 platform, arguing that the AK-47 "is too much of a niche product."

    Wiegand and Benjamin Worrell, owner of Purple Shovel, see things differently.

    Purple Shovel, named for a child's beach toy, already has more than $110 million dollars worth of contracts with U.S. Special Operations Command, headquartered at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, for "small arms, ordnance and ordnance accessories manufacturing," according to federal procurement documents.

    Worrell and Wiegand are prohibited by law from talking about those contracts. SOCom, citing "operational sensitivities," declined to comment on what types of weapons Purple Shovel is providing.

    But SOCom has a strong interest in American-made Soviet-bloc weapons.

    A year ago, the command sent out a market research request regarding what it calls "non-standard weapons." This includes Russian-designed guns like the AK-47 and other similar assault rifles, as well as sniper rifles like the Dragunov, light machine guns like the PKM, and heavy machine guns like the DShK and the KPV. They are weapons preferred by U.S. allies and foes alike for their relatively low cost and simplicity of operation.

    SOCom, tasked with training and equipping commandos and synchronizing the war on terror, provides weapons to allies at the behest of commands like U.S. Central Command. CentCom, also based at MacDill, has overall control of U.S. military operations in the Middle East.

    As with the existing contracts, Worrell and Wiegand can't talk about whether they submitted proposals to SOCom to sell it American-made AK-47s.

    "It is still an ongoing effort," said SOCom spokesman Ken McGraw. "No manufacturers have been identified."

    Regardless of what SOCom decides, foreign government sales remain a key option, Wiegand said.

    Wiegand recently attended the IDEX global defense industry conference in the United Arab Emirates, one of the most important events on the defense contracting calender. The conference proved to be a great showcase for the Inter Ordnance AK-47s, he said.

    "They looked at our guns and really loved them," Wiegand said. "We saw a huge need for American products in the Arabian world. They looked at the quality of what we make and were kind of blown away that we make the AK in the U.S."

    Wiegand said the Saudis, Jordanians, Egyptians, Kuwaitis and Emirates were among those showing keen interest in his weapon.

    U.S. weapons are more expensive to produce, Worrell acknowledged, but the logistics, administrative costs and related activities decrease with U.S.-made production, resulting in a comparable price.

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    The unmistakably tangy sweet scent of metalwork wafts out of the production rooms of the Inter Ordnance plant, where about 50 employees in eight rooms, working in two shifts, go through the many stages of turning some 100 parts into a Kalashnikov.

    The guns are made from the original data package, Wiegand said, plopping a 5-inch thick binder on a conference room table containing drawings and specifications for each part that goes into the gun.

    In addition to the jobs created in Florida, Wiegand said the company is contributing to the national economy by buying parts — once purchased overseas — from U.S. companies.

    Inter Ordnance is not the only Florida company in the market. About 140 miles to the south, in Pompano Beach, Kalashnikov USA has plans to make the AK-47s as well. The company, not connected to the Russian firm prohibited from U.S. sales by sanctions, is making Kalashnikov shotguns but plans to roll out AK-47s later this year, said Laura Burgess, a company spokeswoman.

    Like Wiegand, she said there is a strong market for the weapons.

    As for adding to the global proliferation of the AK-47, Karp, the Small Arms Survey analyst, said Florida-based production is not a major concern.

    "Given the scale of the market, it doesn't add up to very much if you look at it," he said.
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    oh man, if a mall ninja has a failure at the range its one thing but a soldier in harms way carrying an IO that is crazy.
    i cant imagine these selling to any military anywhere.
    there are factories around the world that have been producing them for decades and know what they are doing.
    not to mention the amount of surplus rifles.

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    Would be hilarious if he sold to Zimbabwe and the like...

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    Good grief. Talk about zombies - he had no idea how ironic he was being.
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    IO (Inter Ordnance). Any of the poor souls from SOC or other civilian security who end up with an IO rifle is on the bad end.
    Hopefully they do not need to pull the trigger very often.
    A funny news story though.

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    Don't worry they are made on polish blueprints, recoil buffer and all

    Whoever buys one is very surprised to find out they purchased a hand grenade instead of a rifle

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    Our gov't is just stupid enough to drink Uli's koolaid. We capture thousands of real AKs in the sandbox, destroy them, turn around & buy new ones to give back to the locals. Brilliant !

    You'd think Wiegands' prior interactions with the feds would shy him away from them but I guess not.
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    Maybe one or two of the combat veterans who read this forum either know somebody inside SOC at MacDill, "field grade" or above, or know somebody else, who really knows an insider in SOC.

    Most of you have correctly figured out that this is about issuing them a warning (about I.O's reportedly very shoddy construction: outsourced or not), if they know somebody pretty high in the chain of command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbullets View Post
    Our gov't is just stupid enough to drink Uli's koolaid. We capture thousands of real AKs in the sandbox, destroy them, turn around & buy new ones to give back to the locals. Brilliant !

    You'd think Wiegands' prior interactions with the feds would shy him away from them but I guess not.
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    Ok, so the AK guys seem to really dump on IO
    why?
    at one time I was tempted to buy one of their PSL clones
    it seems like their quality has come up, but complaints are they are non milspec? or is the cast trunion?
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    Back when I was building AKs the IO receivers were the absolute worst, mostly out of dimensional compliance. Dunno of their later history but the comments are pretty brutal.
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    I would not own an I.O. made AK.

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    do not know history of IO manufacturing problems but I thought when they moved to Florida they scrapped all the old stuff they were doing and modernized. If they are doing anything with Govt contracts someone will be testing the products and I am hopeful that there is severe penalties for trying to sell products that are deficient and do not meet requirements. Personally I cannot understand the governments passed performance of capturing weapons and large quantities of perfectly good ammunition and destroying it all. Back during Iran Contra issue they were buying guns from outside normal sources for twice what the usual govt contractors (in this case Sam Cummings world gun dealer) would have provided to them direct from Russian or other East Block production. In my estimation you could have a company of Military Ordnance technicians handle all capture guns and ammunition rebuild or refinish as needed and do sample tests on ammunition and put it in storage till needed for training of our soldiers or supply to indigenous troops for support. It was reported that Iraq had more 7.62x39 in cashes all over the country than ammunition we captured in WW2.

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    Mosinitis:

    You can often get an objective impression of Any sort of AK 'build', but will require more than a few minutes on "AKfiles", "AK 47". Apparently I.O. often does very substandard assembly (outsourced?). I have no idea about the quality of the steel, but I've never read about such shoddy workmanship in any gun. Random components coming loose or being misaligned after < 2,000, maybe < 1,000 rds.
    With SAAMI's 7.62x39 max. chamber pressure of 45,000 psi, is faulty, cheap assembly worth gambling on?

    If "AKfiles" is unfamiliar, there you'll often see comments consisting of nothing but very subjective opinions, but also some factual observations reported by owners, or their buddies.
    How about (AKOU) AK Operators Union? If you've not watched some of Rob ski's videos, he shows you the premature internal peening etc on the Century RAS and C39 after 3,500 and 5,000 rds.

    He should already have a video with close-up wear on the I.O. also. Based on hours reading various AK evaluations on "AKfiles", I wouldn't pay $50 for a brand-new I.O. Notice the low retail prices compared to other AKs...this tells people something?

    In stark contrast, internal wear shows very good results with Rob Ski's newer WASR 10 after 5,000 rds.
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