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    I picked this rifle up this past weekend at a local gunshow. It's a Steyr product originally made in 1869. The bore is in pristine condition and the exterior is in very good shape. It appears to be a mixmaster serial # wise though. From the look of the chamber I think it underwent the 1877 modifications. I believe the unit mark is for "k.u.k. Ungarisches Infanterieregiment „Schreiber“ Nr. 26" a Hungarian unit. Here are some pics.

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    Definitely a M.67/77, the rear sight clearly shows it. It is normal for the barrel & the lock to have different dates. Most of the locks were subcontracted to other manufacturers.

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    please tolerate my ignorance here;unfamiliar with the Werndl rifle,but interested in these early Steyr mfg. what was the M.67 chambering,and then the M.77 chambering? thanks for posting the pics. an excellent example,it appears.

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    Here is some data on Patrone M.67 and Patrone M.77:
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    Thanks,Nick. so the 1867 cartridge was alot shorter at 41 or 42 mm. i do have several examples of the 1886 type cartridges;some might be earlier. is there any difference between the 1877 and 1886 cartridges? i recall reading posts here that sounded like people were shooting 1886 ammo in their Werndl rifles. hoping to learn,eventually,Brian.
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    There is no dimensional difference between M.77 and M.86, only very minor differences in bullet and charge weights.
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    26 IR of KuK army located in Gyor and Ostrihom, now a near slovakian border. Bayonet is a M1870/73 for NCOc probably,anyway the knot is most real a Officer sabre knot. b.r.Andy

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