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    Default Czech and Hungarian ammo. Gun show scores.

    Found these today. Havent taken my makarov caliber pistols out in a while. But i stumbled onto couple packagings i'd never seen before.

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    Now I have a good reason to get my Bulgarian and my P64 out to the range again.

    Anyone have any experience with either of these rounds?
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    The MFS in the green box is brass cased reloadable and flies around 1,000 fps. Good ammo. I always thought the S&B to be more range quality - steel cased and 100 fps slower, but good reliable ammo too.
    I'm always looking for rare varieties of 9x18 ammunition.

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    Yes, I too like the MFS ammo.
    Looking for USS Casimir Pulaski SSBN 633 items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Bender View Post
    The MFS in the green box is brass cased reloadable and flies around 1,000 fps. Good ammo. I always thought the S&B to be more range quality - steel cased and 100 fps slower, but good reliable ammo too.
    Does S & B shoot dirtier, generally speaking? I mean, residue on the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Bender View Post
    The MFS in the green box is brass cased reloadable and flies around 1,000 fps. Good ammo. I always thought the S&B to be more range quality - steel cased and 100 fps slower, but good reliable ammo too.
    Thanks for the imput NB.

    The MFS has a cool ballistics chart on the side of the box displaying ballistic characteristics between 0-100 meteres for a 100mm/4inch barrel. I hadn't taken the time to convert the chart from metric to American standard. 290m/sec at 100meteres. 1000ft/sec at 100 yards looks like about right. (390m/sec at the muzzle--yikes!!)

    I passed on all of the usual 9x18 offerings at the gun show yesterday. As my pistol collection has grown, I shoot my makarov caliber pistols a lot less (my Bulgarian Circle 10 is still the most accurate pistol I've ever shot), so when I go to shows I'm always looking for the more obscure commercial packagings and surplus 9x18 ammo.


    I really dig the no-nonsense Czechoslovakian boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Coffee View Post
    Does S & B shoot dirtier, generally speaking? I mean, residue on the gun.
    No, I never thought so, but that's a pretty subjective measurement.
    I'm always looking for rare varieties of 9x18 ammunition.

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    Guns get dirty when fired, it's just a fact of life. And straight blow-back designs like the Makarov get really sooty after a range session, particularly inside the slide. I thought it was more common with steel cased ammo, but I put two boxes of brass cased ammo through my Bulgy at my last range session and it was filthy. And that was with S&B brass and MFS brass ammo. I always clean my guns well after every shooting session.

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