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    The female Carb and GdF definitely are not "old wartime"....

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    Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianoKid View Post
    The female Carb and GdF definitely are not "old wartime"....
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    The Italian seem to be adept at finding exceptionally attractive females in the military and use them in nicely staged photos. A lot more effective than the standard recruiting poster.Attachment 2110578 Attached is another example.... Ralph

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    the guy that took a round in line with his right has got to be the luckiest guy in the world!!! what is the chance of it hitting in that spot!!!?

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    Default WW2 Italian Partisan fighter with Carcano carbine

    Italian Partisan looks like he removed the folding bayonet on his carbine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOLO View Post
    Italian Parisian looks like he removed the folding bayonet on his carbine?
    No, the bayonet is in place. That's the top side of the bayonet (in the closed position) visible in the photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard in NY* View Post
    No, the bayonet is in place. That's the top side of the bayonet (in the closed position) visible in the photo.
    Oh, OK thats why it looks like that since it's the backside
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    Here are some from the German side of things-
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    Good pics, Pat! Top one appears to be Volkssturm = very old & very young guys waiting for Zhukov's T-34s to come clattering their way.

    The remainder appear to be from anti-partisan operations in the Balkans. SW
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    Pics 2 and 3 are in Rome, after the V. Rasella attack.
    Last two show the disarmament of Italian troops after the 8th September armistice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5thDragoons View Post
    Good pics, Pat! Top one appears to be Volkssturm = very old & very young guys waiting for Zhukov's T-34s to come clattering their way.

    The remainder appear to be from anti-partisan operations in the Balkans. SW
    Thank you, Sir! Correct, the first two very small ones are from what is thought to be Bosnia in 1944. They're part of a series in which M41's figure very prominently. Some of the others are supposed to be from northern Italy.

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    Pics 2 and 3 are in Rome, after the V. Rasella attack.
    Last two show the disarmament of Italian troops after the 8th September armistice.
    Hi kannister,
    Also correct. These were taken during the prelude to the Fosse Ardeatine massacre/murders. Like the photos from Bosnia, these also show M41's in use. The two showing disarmament are from the German take-over of the Greek island of Leros. Most sources appear to agree on 400,000 Italian rifles/carbines being seized by the Germans in September 1943, but I wonder if this only included those taken in peninsular Italy, and not in Yugoslavia, Greece and the Greek islands?

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    Photo 1: Abyssinia, 1935-36; Long M91s, Soldiers carrying ammo boxes for ?Breda M30 or ?Revelli M1914?

    Photo 2: WW I, three Bersaglieri carrying early Issue M91TS, one with straight bolt handle (Very early). Earlier Vetterli type sling (wide)

    Photo 3: Late 1930s, early WW II: Trucks belong to "Artillery of Army Corps", 2nd Battery; Soldiers either MVSN or Artillerymen. Film "LUCE": newsreel.

    Photo 4: Bersaglieri in Ceremonial dress, Boots and Zouave trousers of WW I or Early 20s.

    Photo 5: Probably Bersaglieri ( 8th Regiment), North Africa. Note Italian solar/tropical topee (Better than the British one), m91Cav Carbines, light tropical dress. 1941-42.

    Photo 6: Modern ( 1990s onwards) Guard duty, Important Gov't Building ( probably in Rome) Full Dress Carabiniera, being relieved by Full dressed Guardia di Finanza (Both Female) Italian Forces abandoned Conscription in the Mid 1990s, and went Gender Neutral & Volunteer/Career Service for all rank.

    Photo 7: German ?Volksturm? or Volksgrenadiers, Late War (44-45.

    Photo 8: Infantry, Standard Kit and uniform, 1940, Long M91s,l Vetterli type wide sling.

    Photo 9: Alpini with ammunition Pack Mules WW II...could be anywhere ( Italy, Albania, Greece, Nth Africa, Russia).

    Photo 10: Probably Russian Front, M38 (6,5)-- FC or TS? Breda Ammo Box (M37 MG) on Back.

    Photo 11; Women's Auxiliary, RSI, 1945, at Training...many of these young Girls were executed by the Communists in April 45 at war's end.

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    Here are two more that might be of interest...

    The first is of a store room of captured weapons in Germany. Note the very obvious profile of Moschettos among the rest.

    The second is from a page in a German soldier's Soldbuch, the personal information booklet that recorded (among many other things) equipment assigned. Look at the third to last line. This and the lines above and below it record rifles assigned to the bearer, and an Italian rifle chambered in 6.5 mm is noted. The owner of this Soldbuch informed me that the service member in question was assigned to a Luftwaffe flak unit.

    There are German depot stamped Carcanos, German numbered Carcanos and a number of photos of them in German use, but it's kind of neat to have such a personalized record memorialized in this way.

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    That soldbuch entry is cool Poot. Can Steve and I use it in the book?
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    Arditi,
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    I had to concentrate to see the bayonet.
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    Nick,
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    WHAT BAYONET???? I don't see a bayonet?

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    WOW!! she could crawl into my fox hole any time!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toot View Post
    WHAT BAYONET???? I don't see a bayonet?
    Here - it's a Carcano and the bayonet is clearly visible this time
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    Here's a similar pic of an Italian soldato's 'friend' on his Moto Guzzi somewhere in Abyssinia in the 1930s. SW
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    WOW!! that is a great MOTO GUZZI. worth some serious scheckles today!

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    NICK, thanks for posting. I see it this time. BTW, that is a nice pair. what model and date is it?

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    Apologies for hijacking the thread...

    Carcano needle gun, M1844/67:











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    NICK, thank you for sharing a gorgeous weapon and a great piece of fire arm history with us. glad i asked what it was. i have never seen or heard of one. i did not know that the ITALIANS got in on the making of NEEDLE GUNS? only thought the FRENCH, and GERMANS made them. again a truly beautiful and historic piece.

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    There was an Italian needle gun on gunborker recently - went for well over 2000. SW

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    as I said NICK'S was a museum quality piece. I don't think they come any better! an UBER rare piece!

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    Here's another, apparently Volkssturm troops with Panzerfäuste. Is that an M41?

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    Straight bolt handle - short rear sight... very good chance it's an M41. SW
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    This one might be in one of the recent books, but here it is anyway - two Soviet soldiers, one with a Moschetto.
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    WOW!! what a great photo keep em coming. they got to be a good weapon when just about every country in the world seems to use them at various times! I wonder what the caliber is, 6.5 or 7.35? if it was captured from the FINS we know what it would be.

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    could it be that most weapons of the time held only 5 rounds? a sixth might make the difference between life and death, just a thought.

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    Would not have been captured from the Finns; they bought the 7.35mm M38 from the Italians, not the moschetto. Ralph

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    Balillas this time. 1935 Fascist era youth at present arms, from Süddeutsche Zeitung files.
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    Pat, nice image of "Marinaretti" (Little Sailors) armed with Balillas; I have seen a ton of pictures of little Fascists with Balillas, but I think this is a new one on me... thanks. Ralph

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    I found a Regia Marina Balilla cap tally at the militaria expo in Belgium a while back. Same vendor had Regia Aeronautica Balilla tallys, but I was low on Euros by that time. SW
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianoKid View Post
    Pat, nice image of "Marinaretti" (Little Sailors) armed with Balillas; I have seen a ton of pictures of little Fascists with Balillas, but I think this is a new one on me... thanks. Ralph
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    I found a Regia Marina Balilla cap tally at the militaria expo in Belgium a while back. Same vendor had Regia Aeronautica Balilla tallys, but I was low on Euros by that time. SW
    Very neat, Steve. I don't collect militaria, but it sure seems that Europe has far more of it than we do. We make up for it with rifles, carbines and pistols, though

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    Ariano Kid, thanks for the info!.

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    A pile of rifles captured from/surrendered by German troops, and being examined by American soldiers in Germany. There is a Model 1938 Short Rifle leaned against the rest of the rifles in the foreground. In addition to the expected K98k rifles, there is also a Berthier near the bottom and facing towards the camera, what appears to be a Gewehr 98 held by the soldier on the right, and a Norwegian Model 1912 Krag Carbine held by the soldier on the left.

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    Found more in a flash drive. (I really need to organize my shoe box of flash drives someday!)

    Top - Carcanos under new ownership.
    Also a soldato with TS somewhere in East Africa.
    And wouldn't I like to rummage through that pile of captured Carcanos! Might find one of the 200 or so MIDA M91 long rifles from 1916! SW
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