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    Default Somebody please talk me out of a Canik TP9SA...

    Local place has them for 349 NIB....I have no need as I have 3 M9s/92FS here....but at that price with the reviews I am tempted to bring one or two home and stick in the safe.

    Don't know that I will find them any cheaper than 349 new.

    It's not a need but 18+1 capacity on a pistol that supposedly has a great trigger and is extremely accurate for that price has got me itching.

    Any thoughts?
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    I think the decocker button is a turn off for me as far as a defense pistol, but for plinking it really wouldn't matter.

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    I thought about getting one until shooting my buddy's. We are both decent shots but neither of us could not get a decent grouping out of his Canik... It may have just been a QC issue with his but having shot it, I lost interest in getting one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill-Rube View Post
    Any thoughts?
    Buy it or many two. One can NEVER have enough guns!
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    I can talk you out of it in three words...made in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudoven View Post
    I can talk you out of it in three words...made in Turkey.
    Best argument yet.
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    Two words--Hell no!

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    I don't have the SA but I do have TP9 V2 and I love it and wear it every day. Once I took it to the range the Glock 17 went back in the safe. I also just bought a second one last month since J&G had them on sale for 279. I love the trigger and the short reset and 19 rounds don't hurt either.

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    Not my place to talk someone in or out of a firearms purchase, they should do their homework on the weapon beyond price and come up with their own conclusions. As for me, High Rider summed it up nicely.....

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    Most of these people talking down the Canik TP9SA dont have one, I can tell you I am very impressed with mine. Feels like a $600-700 pistol for half the cost. Excellent tolerances, accurate, and fun.

    Just got the elite version, and love the trigger and sights on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post
    Most of these people talking down the Canik TP9SA dont have one, I can tell you I am very impressed with mine. Feels like a $600-700 pistol for half the cost. Excellent tolerances, accurate, and fun.

    Just got the elite version, and love the trigger and sights on it.
    Agree 100%. If you haven't shot one, don't bad mouth it. I got one in 9mm and one in .45 cal. Both rate very high in my opinion and steel frame on the .45 cal. model is great. The 19 rounds is not a bad feature either.
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    I honestly don't see any reason to get one when the Italian made DA/SA Tanfoglio Witness with a steel frame instead of polymer can be had in 9mm for around the same price.

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    Well,OK. If you like a big fat grip sticking way below the bottom of your hand, well OK. If you like a big square trigger guard cuz the trigger shape demands it and the rest of the bottom profile up front with snagging notches,well OK. If you like a CC that prints like a DeWalt screw gun,well OK. And if your day job is LE and your seat back and cushion has chunks bitten out of them in just the right spots by your K-9 partner you should enjoy your shift a lot more. If you are OK with the above, well OK.

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    I have a C-100 and I love it. I've never shot the TP9, but based on the C-100; I would take a chance on it. Maybe I just got lucky and got a good one of the batch, but it shoots straight, came with two 15rd mags, and I'm a CZ fan, so it was a nice way to get into the CZ game on the cheap.

    Wish I could talk you out of it, but that's a decent price for what might be a decent gun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill-Rube View Post
    Local place has them for 349 NIB....I have no need as I have 3 M9s/92FS here....but at that price with the reviews I am tempted to bring one or two home and stick in the safe.

    Don't know that I will find them any cheaper than 349 new.

    It's not a need but 18+1 capacity on a pistol that supposedly has a great trigger and is extremely accurate for that price has got me itching.

    Any thoughts?

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    I had the same thought recently until I decided to buy a couple of LEO trade in M&P .40's instead. One is perfect. The other had some FTF's so I am TODAY shipping it back to S&W for free repairs, round trip shipping paid. I am placing them in lock boxes in various places around the house. It will make ammo and accessory purchases and training easier. I paid $279 shipping from aim surplus for those pistols, each that is.

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    The comment about good accuracy always bothers me when reading a gun scribes report. I can never shoot the same model as well as those guys with their test guns. I guess my bench and bags are defective because it cant be the scribe who enhances his groups to curry favor with mfgs.

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    OP, I have the pistol you are orocrastinating over and from my personal experirnce, it's a great way to go. Mine digests everything I feed it without any hiccups. As for being made in Turkey?????????????????

    I have some very decent firearms that were made in Turkey. Thousands of rounds through them without any issues.

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    I have seen many rave reviews. If they weren't PROHIBITED in California, I'd own one. I am most familiar with Turkish air guns (Hatsan and Kral) which are excellent values. I also have a pump action 12 g Escort Marine Guard with chrome barrel. It's accurate with slugs and reliable.

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    The Turkey thing kills it for me. Sort of like a Muslim Taurus. Buy the Walther P99 instead.

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    Skip the SA and get the SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxermachine View Post
    The Turkey thing kills it for me. Sort of like a Muslim Taurus. Buy the Walther P99 instead.
    Not very cool boxermachine, Collectors come in all stripes, including Muslims. Plenty of other forums for bigotry, lets keep this one clean

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    Quote Originally Posted by M14sRock View Post
    Skip the SA and get the SF.
    I think the TP9SFX is one of the coolest options out. I bought the TP9SF before the SFX came out.

    http://www.canikusa.com/tp9sfx/

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    Sorry if I offended you but you've reading into it too much. Caniks, like Taurus, are not 'collectibles'. The P99 will be. Just the facts, sir.

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    Its hard to gauge what will become a collectible while they are still being offered for sale. The Caracal 9mm from the United Arab Emirates has jumped in value to over $1k. The Pakistani Tokarev that were being sold $250 just two years ago are now selling for >$500, and the Egyptian Hakims, Maadi AK47's etc have all jumped into entry level collectible territory. (Notice all are from the mid-east).

    If Turkey every decides to shut down imports to the US for whatever political reason, Canik's could easily double in value. Turkish firearms are generally known to be of high quality at low prices. (The Yildiz engraved O/U shotguns for $400 comes to mind).

    But as a general rule, I agree that the Walther is the safer bet, albeit with lower upside potential. Think of the Canik as a penny stock, vs the blue chip Walthers.

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    I got one and have not had one problem with it, I think I paid $335. for it at a gun show. https://youtu.be/qRyhp_MBxo4

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    Cheeze, guys, I don't think he's asking for advice; he's asking for an intervention. You know, like:

    Help me Rhonda
    Help, help me Rhonda
    Help me get her out of my heart

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    I tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post
    I think the TP9SFX is one of the coolest options out. I bought the TP9SF before the SFX came out.

    http://www.canikusa.com/tp9sfx/

    It's a lot of bang for the buck.

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    nope, not gonna do it...
    damn...
    now I want one, been looking at them for a long time, but
    need another one like
    still kicking myself when (forget who) had them for $220 about a year and half ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Ye Olde Hunter View Post
    Cheeze, guys, I don't think he's asking for advice; he's asking for an intervention. You know, like:

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    Help, help me Rhonda
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    Yeah, asking for that here, is like holding weight watchers at Golden Coral on the dessert bar night...
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxermachine View Post
    The Turkey thing kills it for me. Sort of like a Muslim Taurus. Buy the Walther P99 instead.

    Ive got an MP5 clone that was made in Turkey and I'd stack it up against one made anywhere else in the world. Just sayn.

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    Thanks everyone for the comments....I'm not a rich guy or I wouldn't ponder the purchase of a economically priced firearm.
    Turkey is not the highest on my list of politically favorite countries.
    That being said I don't let country of origin (in most cases) dictate what I purchase to shoot. If that were the case I'd not have any SKSs or AKs.

    I am still thinking on it...it seems that most people who actually own them think the world of them.

    If I do pick one up I'll put a few boxes through it and post a report here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill-Rube View Post
    Thanks everyone for the comments....I'm not a rich guy or I wouldn't ponder the purchase of a economically priced firearm.
    Turkey is not the highest on my list of politically favorite countries.
    That being said I don't let country of origin (in most cases) dictate what I purchase to shoot. If that were the case I'd not have any SKSs or AKs.

    I am still thinking on it...it seems that most people who actually own them think the world of them.

    If I do pick one up I'll put a few boxes through it and post a report here.
    There is a big difference in buying a firearm made for the commercial market by/in a country with politics you disagree with or buying a milsurp weapon made under different politics and being sold because the country is broke.

    I collect Czech and other Eastern European milsurp firearms. They dump them cheap and they are well made. They are losing money with everyone sold, but are considered obsolete for thier military and police. Many of these countries do not want thier citizens to have them. Their loss - my gain.

    Buying new supports these governments you may not agree with.

    Note: The Czech Republic and a few others are anti communist now and are trying to join with the West.

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    I have two now had three!
    Attachment 2118458 Bought used $275 last month SF tan, no decocker.....early March
    traded it for o/u Ithaca and $200. (Second time I owned that trap gun), made money when sold first time too.......
    then sold the trap gun this last of March "second time" in trade, for new AR 15 Anderson pistol....$250..made more money.
    I just Didn't like the tan looks...
    Attachment 2118466 Attachment 2118474 I bought $320 the TP 9 last year, single action when decoked "/////" this much movement of slide cocked it....
    highly surprisingly very consistent and accurate! Ordered extra clip too!

    when I saw the V2 double action first shot model on inter net ordered it....$340 best of the best.

    When you decock it, pull trigger first shot is double action. This is Best for carry guns I think!

    One of the best buys for your money "HK-Walter" clone with top decocker, match barrel, two mag's, holster, extra's adds great value!

    now I haven't put hundereds through them yet..
    have many guns colts, Kimbers, Springfield's, Styre's, rock islands, Para's,.......and this new gun is more than half the value standing tall ! ><> Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK PHILLIPS View Post
    I have two now had three!
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    when I saw the V2 double action first shot model on inter net ordered it....$340 best of the best.

    When you decock it, pull trigger first shot is double action. This is Best for carry guns I think!

    One of the best buys for your money "HK-Walter" clone with top decocker, match barrel, two mag's, holster, extra's adds great value!

    now I haven't put hundereds through them yet..
    have many guns colts, Kimbers, Springfield's, Styre's, rock islands, Para's,.......and this new gun is more than half the value standing tall ! ><> Dan
    I second all this. the V2 has a great trigger setup. I paid about 350 for the first one and liked it so much it replaced my Glock. The way the trigger works with second strike capability and short single action type reset is just awesome. Like I said in my earlier post in this thread I even bought a second one for the safe when they went on sale for 279. They replaced the serpa holster with a better friction retention in the new one I purchased. I know I have over 1000 rounds through my TP9 V2 and never had a problem.

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    BTW I also own a SAR 9mm and a Hatsan air rifle both also made in Turkey and fit and finish on both of those is top of the line also.

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    Well...the short story: got one.

    The long story: Went to Academy to look at the SA version. It had what I assume was a first Gen holster that sucked. The SF had a decent holster but I wanted the SA version. Both were $349 and both were tan. As I don't live in the desert I prefer black. So I passed.

    Made my rounds to a few local shops and the last stop of the day hit paydirt. They had Caniks in stock....black....good holster, and $339 price tag. I brought it home. Will report on function as soon as I can get out to test fire it. Nephew is turkey hunting back there today.

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    OK: Took the Canik out today for function testing. I'm not scientific nor a pro shooter. I set up my paper plate targets at 10'. I put two mags through it without a hitch. 1st mag was slow deliberate aimed fire. It was tough to get the 18th rd in the mag so I just stopped at 17.
    It came with an extra backstrap but the grip fit my hand nicely with the one installed. The wife even liked the grip - she said it was way better for her than my Beretta M9.
    All seventeen rounds where very close to point of aim and grouped loosely in a fist sized area on the plate. (here's where I would like to tell you how they all went in one ragged hole but I lying skills are not that good).
    The second mag I blasted through - aimed rapid fire as fast as I could aim and pull the trigger. All rounds were still on the plate; make that all OVER the plate but on it none-the-less. For me, this is way acceptable.
    No issues in feeding or ejecting. It ate and spit. Trigger: one of the reasons I wanted the SA model was supposedly the great trigger. As I stated previously I am not a pro shooter. However, the trigger was very very nice compared to the Glocks that I've owned. (I know you can buy parts and make the triggers better in a Glock, etc) The trigger on the Canik allowed me to put my bullets really really close to where I wanted them to go. I never could quite do that with a glock.
    Now, I took a couple of other new additions out today and put two mags each through them.
    S&W 9 sheild: Group was not as tight as the Canik but respectable with the small barrel; shot from the same distance. Fired 2 mags through it without issues. Shield trigger vs Canik trigger: Not even close...Canik beats it hands down.
    Beretta 92SF: Put two mags through it; again no issues (didn't expect any with the 92) and I can put every round where I want it go. The Beretta M9/92SF was the first full sized handgun that I fired where the aiming and follow up shots came so natural. It shoots as good as I can see to aim.

    Back to the Canik: I could not be happier for the package at the price. That being said, it could fall apart when I run the next mag through it. Oh - the sights - love the sights on it. My bottom line after initial firing is that all the positive reviews are well founded. If I run into issues I will post them here.

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    They can be addictive. Especially at their price point. Now your going to want one of ever model! I know when I see my first Elite at the 300 price I'll grab it. This month my gun of the month is the Shield with the 75 buck rebate. If you ever get a chance try the trigger in the V2, you can't really explain it other then it's a striker fired gun that the trigger feels like a hammer semiauto, and it does allow the striker to fire without racking the slide. I have not shot the SA, does it allow for a second strike with a trigger pull if you hit a bad primer? I also would like to say I really like the Cerakote finish they use on these TP9s

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    Bill-Rube, Ok now that you got the in close and personal shooting done at ten feet how about moving that plate to 25 yards? 50 yards? And see what kind of hits you get on the target. Then also multiple targets at your defensive distances, get to know the pistol for hits other than immediately in front of you.

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    Love the sights the "l" in the middle helped me center up with poorer eyes than 10 years ago!
    For the money I have two...sold the desert tan not liking not to decock bothered me just a little...
    And my friend wanted it bad after my experience with the others....
    Now if they come out with simular v2 in 45...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibmikey View Post
    Bill-Rube, Ok now that you got the in close and personal shooting done at ten feet how about moving that plate to 25 yards? 50 yards? And see what kind of hits you get on the target. Then also multiple targets at your defensive distances, get to know the pistol for hits other than immediately in front of you.
    I am working on dedicated 'pistol range' in the woods beside the house where I can set up some gongs/targets and quit throwing brass in the yard. Lawn mower slings it everywhere.
    I've to do a little clearing out over there but hope to have some more scientific results then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DK PHILLIPS View Post
    Love the sights the "l" in the middle helped me center up with poorer eyes than 10 years ago!
    For the money I have two...sold the desert tan not liking not to decock bothered me just a little...
    And my friend wanted it bad after my experience with the others....
    Now if they come out with simular v2 in 45...
    I will be buying another TP9 in the very near future...not sure if I'll go with the SF or get a second SA. The trigger is nice on the SA. I did order some extra 18rd mags from J&G last week (along with some Catamount 10rdrs but thats another forum) just so I will have more than two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill-Rube View Post
    I can set up some gongs/targets and quit throwing brass in the yard. Lawn mower slings it everywhere.
    I made a "brass catcher" from PVC pipe and nylon mesh. Only certain parts of the PVC are cemented together so it can be disassembled for movement and storage. The PVC frame is tall enough to stop the brass if I'm standing and shoot. The mesh which fits over the frame and channels the brass into a white plastic bucket at the bottom -- makes catching and saving the brass a breeze.
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    Bill the v2 is sweet extra...tp9 single action sweet also...
    SF trigger least of the other two gritty ....
    It's fair to say I didn't work with it (moly) long before I traded it off....
    The color....melted tan fudge just got to me fast

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