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Does Orrin Hatch support 2A?

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#6 ·
Boy, THAT blog didn't stay up long. The URL for Chapman can't be found an hour later..


Yes, watching the Democrats and other Trump-haters coming up with new conspiracy theories and watching them go into fits of rage would be funny if it weren't already hilarious.

Has anybody yet blogged or otherwise reported that Donald Trump eats babies? I expect THAT one to come out of Charlie Scumbag's (Amy's cousin?) mouth any day now.
 
#3 ·
Where are the RICO charges against the DNC for fixing the primary so Bernie couldn't win, for arranging and paying people to go start fights at Trump rallies, and for laundering Hitlery's Russian and Emerati money chadsev?
 
#5 ·
The non-conservative parts of the media appear to have the symptoms of rabies; mouths foaming, delusions, hysteria, barking and howling. So I wouldn't put a lot of credence into anything they say. The RICO Russian Money Laundering bit is a new one. Problem with that particular scenario is there's tight controls on campaign money and a number of politicians of both parties in deep trouble for violating the laws right now. Tough to "launder money" in a business where everyone gets paid by check. Also tight controls on money from furriners. Ask Mike Flynn.
 
#7 ·
The Washington Post story claiming Trump gave classified intelligence details to the Russian Foreign Minister has already fallen apart. There were 3 people with Trump and the Russki in that meeting, including McMasters and Tillerson, and they all said he didn't do it, that no sources and details were discussed.
The Post story didn't name any sources except that they were "current and former intelligence personnel".
IMHO it was a bar room BS story that grew until the post picked it up and ran with it, despite the lack of corroboration, because they hate Trump so much.
It's also a fact that Trump has a lot of enemies at the CIA, which is pretty much run by a Liberal Ivy league clique.
 
#11 ·
It's probably yet another 4Chan story trolled to a Nevertrumper who sent it immediately to every other Nevertrumper and Press Outlet in their address book, just like the Russian Hookers Golden Showers story was.

Viva Pepe Le Frog!!!!!!!!!
 
#8 ·
National Security Adviser HR McMaster told reporters the story, "as reported", was "false".

"At no time - at no time - were intelligence sources or methods discussed. And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known."

The statement was echoed by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

But the Washington Post said this did not amount to a denial.

Speaking to the BBC, Post reporter Greg Jaffe said the story made it clear the president did not disclose sources or methods. But he added: "Our story says that the nature of the information provided would have allowed the Russians to 'reverse engineer' to discover the sources and methods. He said so much that they could figure it out."
 
#9 ·
Here's what I'm getting this morning..

The U.S. Marshals Service presented a plan to a senior Justice Department official yesterday for the service of warrants in the Trump-Russia inquiry, separate sources with links to the intelligence and law enforcement communities report.

The extensive plan was approved yesterday by a senior Justice Department official who is closely involved in prosecuting the case.

Sources say that the extensive plan, multiple pages in length, covered not only the serving of warrants, but logistical arrangements such as the closure of streets, if necessary.

They further report that while timing is uncertain, such plans are normally only presented and approved when arrests are imminent.

XXXXXXX knows the identity of the senior justice official who approved the plan, and the court in which it was approved. We are redacting that information.
 
#13 ·
So............... what is "imminent", 3 days, or anytime in the next 3 months?

Are you going to come back and announce when no such "arrests" actually happen and it was a BS fabrication, or not?............................................
 
#10 ·
So how does the murder of the DNC leaker to WikiLeaks of the DNC emails, the same emails that many media members reported as being hacked by the Russians, fit into this Russian investigation? Funny how much of the media has dropped this line of inquiry, and why hasn't the investigation details of this murder been reported earlier? It is strange that someone in the FBI talked with the media only AFTER Comey's departure!
 
#12 ·
I doesn't, totally separate corruption by the DNC.

Have faith though, it will be covered up and remain unsolved for eternity (already being worked).

Private investigator and Fox News contributor Rod Wheeler alleged Monday that the true circumstances of the killing were being covered up by police and that Rich had indeed been in contact with WikiLeaks.
“I have a source inside the police department that has looked at me straight in the eye and said, ‘Rod, we were told to stand down on this case and I can’t share any information with you.’”
“Now, that is highly unusual for a murder investigation, especially from a police department. Again, I don’t think it comes from the chief’s office, but I do believe there is a correlation between the mayor’s office and the DNC and that is the information that will come out
DC Metro PD claims a 62% homicide clearance rate (far better than the laughable rate Chicago has), but Seth's will fall into the 38% unsolved.............
 
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The supposedly classified information came from Israel and related to ISIS plans to use bombs in laptops to blow up aircraft. IMHO this was blown way, way out of proportion and is still being pumped up to lunatic proportions. That's because the basic info on the scheme was publicized in March with a Department of Homeland Security ban on laptops and tablets in flights from the Middle East, and more recently a plan to ban them on Europe flights too.

As for the source being the scandal there are at most 4 intelligence agencies that could be the source and you don't have to be Donald Trump to figure that Israel is no. 1.
 
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jjk I'm not picking on you this morning! I enjoy your posts because you put reasoning into your thoughts, not just blind labels like calling everyone "liberals" who disagree with you.

But IMHO your HO is not worth much on this issue. The very reasons why this is a security breach are not known to us, other than a fear that releasing the town where this info was collected may put someone in jeopardy, our source did not agree to share this info with the Russians, and so that source may be less forthcoming in the future. I don't know that, but there are people on both sides of the aisle who are concerned, so there may be something to it.
 
#16 ·
Here's an interesting tidbit..

Sources close to the intelligence community report that Director Comey’s FBI computer was illegally accessed immediately after he was dismissed from his post. They further report that ‘removable media’ was used in the commission of this crime. ‘Removable media’ is a category describing physical devices that can be placed into a computer, either to download information or to upload it, such as a memory card, a USB stick, a removable hard drive, a thumb drive or similar items.

Sources further report that a person or persons allied to Donald Trump passed data accessed from Director Comey’s computer to Russian diplomats. It is not known when or how this took place. A piece of removable media containing all the data in question has been recovered from hostile actors, sources say, and is now in the possession of the Justice Department.

Director Comey is said to have known in advance that Mr. Trump would dismiss him. He took careful steps, these sources say, to leave not only a paper trail as we have seen in the story of the ‘Comey Memo’ but also a digital one. Director Comey’s own primary work computer, and other computers in and around his former office, were fitted with sophisticated intelligence community software allowing the Justice Department to see precisely how and when they were attacked.
 
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The illegal accessor was Former Director Comey, to get/save all his kiddie porn off his work computer (or so my anonymous sources tell me).
 
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Here's an interesting tidbit in return.

Sources have revealed that then Attorney General Lynch threatened to recommend that then President Obama fire Comey if he did not exculpate Hillary Clinton in July. This threat was the result of the conversation she had with former President Clinton on the tarmac where they both "happened to be waiting to depart. Comey had to destroy his memo of the meeting because it was evidence of obstruction of justice and if it remained in his possession Comey could be prosecuted under US Code 18.

Chairman Chaffetz offered Comey immunity for his testimony and for reopening the investigation in October, but Lynch revealed to Comey she had kept an electronic copy of the memo after retrieving it from his account. She reiterated her threat and Comey announced that once again he could exculpate HRC.

See how much fun this is?
 
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I tire of these "stories" from sources, unnamed sources, undisclosed sources etc... If no one wants to put their name name on it, it's most probably a manufactured lie. Ratings drive the media, they couldn't care less what the story is. If it bleeds, it leads. I still remember Don Lemon on CNN claiming (in all seriousness) that a UFO took the missing Malaysian air liner. Come on people, the media tells lies and misleads us. Don't believe what you hear from any source. Gather all that you can and split it down the middle. It still won't be the truth but it may be closer to it than either far end. As I said yesterday, WAKE UP! BTW, any one need a gross of pussycat hats? Missed that boat.
 
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JMO - but if the people supposedly with knowledge won't tell who they are (and risk termination or persecution), I consider it of VERY low value.

Say D4,, usually.

Source reliability:



Rating

Description

A Reliable No doubt about the source's authenticity, trustworthiness, or competency. History of complete reliability.
B Usually reliable Minor doubts. History of mostly valid information.
C Fairly reliable Doubts. Provided valid information in the past.
D Not usually reliable Significant doubts. Provided valid information in the past.
E Unreliable Lacks authenticity, trustworthiness, and competency. History of invalid information.
F Cannot be judged Insufficient information to evaluate reliability. May or may not be reliable.

Information reliability[edit]



Rating:

Description

1 Confirmed Logical, consistent with other relevant information, confirmed by independent sources.
2 Probably true Logical, consistent with other relevant information, not confirmed.
3 Possibly true Reasonably logical, agrees with some relevant information, not confirmed.
4 Doubtfully true Not logical but possible, no other information on the subject, not confirmed.
5 Improbable Not logical, contradicted by other relevant information.
6 Cannot be judged The validity of the information can not be determined.
 
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Heard 2 things today:

1- The Trump Campaign Rally call of "Lock Her Up" and "Crooked Hillary" ref. Hitlery Clintoon was an idea thought up by Vladimir Putin and provided to his campaign through the 'collusion channels".
The above is sourced reliably to Maxine Waters

2- The lack of evidence of collusion with the Russians is proof of the same collusion.
I was planting 3 Blueberry bushes in the back yard when this gem went across the radio, I missed who said it and I have been unable in 20 min. of searching the web just now to find it (but if I were to bet money on it, the safe bet is Maxine Waters again).

That's an impressive psychosis she has going on there (I'm on the internet, so I can be a psychologist), impressively scary, probably should be kept under observation and be on a 'list' of some kind....


In fact (just found this), Putin is advancing into Korea (and obviously the liberal news won't report on it until Trump bombs Korea to stop them).- Maxine Waters.


Maxine's info rates about E-5 (very similar to her IQ).
 
#33 ·
As mentioned, apparently Trump only gave the Russians info on use of laptops by the extremist since that had already happened to them. No way is that illegal as Trump can declassify anything he wants so it was no longer classified. He did not release sources and methods. The Russians cautioned us twice on the Boston bombers. Such coop between us is good for both and bad for the extremist. Where were the liberals and dems when classified info was out by Hill, Manning, Mrs. Carlos Danger, etc.? Looks like classified info only matters if a Republican releases it.

The folks giving this to the media should be prosecuted. Looks like they also released the sources and methods and the NY Times published that too knowing it could be a national security issue and a problem for Israel. The media will endanger us all for their agenda to get Trump. Who is the real threat? The media and the leakers, that's who.
 
#35 ·
They won't be satisfied until (absent a Democrat getting the post) they get the Sewers and Sidewalks Commissioner from Keokuk, Iowa into the position.
Please Dear God, NO! NO! NO! The "Progressive" Democratic Mayor of St. Petersburg Floriduh ignored a report from the sewer Dept. 2 years ago that if he closed down a sewage plant as planned there wouldn't be enough capacity to prevent overflows of raw sewage in a storm.

Guess what happened. Hurricane Hermine came along on Sept 1, 2016 and 200 million plus gallons of sewage erupted from manholes, flowed down the streets and had to be dumped into Tampa Bay.
 
#36 ·
Rumor is that he is begin prepped to become the president when all the turds in the line above him are charged with felony crimes.
Starting with this one.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...minister-and-ambassador/ar-BBBaWuJ?li=BBnb4R7
Rumor mill states RICO charges against RNC, Trump advisors, chief of staff and high level congress critters for laundering Russian mob money into election funds.
I realize I'm about to axe a hard question, but here it comes...................


How do you figure, that if the head of the house (speaker) is complicit in trump's imaginary 'crimes' (you must figure that because you skipped him (you also think Pence is a criminal as well)), just how is it you figure the leader of the Senate (Orin Hatch) is not also complicit (he's thus a "high-level congress critter"), or did those complicated fine points fail to appear in the fantasy you have above?


BTW,, Orin Hatch, being a Republican, is an 'ist and a "phobe", probably a half-dozen of each, just as Maxine how terrible he is............................
He's probably worse than Trent Lott, MSNBC will say so when it suits them..........................
 
#41 ·
No idea if these traitors will be held accountable but follow the Russian money guys..Mitch has ties to a Putin backed Ukrainian money laundering scheme which donated 2.5 million to the super pac that pays his expenses, so he will be fair when it comes to investigating high crimes right?
Ryan is glued to more Putin money too..
Trump himself is knee deep in Putin sourced/backed cash via loans for his ponzi scheme real estate deals world wide..
All the grand jury stuff swirls around Putin cash, maybe it comes from/through cut-outs to make Foxnews ignore it but that's what the law dogs are sniffing.
Trumps minions being in contact with Russian spy guys more than 20 times during and right after the election has raised some interest as well, grand jury wise.
But Foxnews has a demo intern getting killed by Hillary...been debunked a LONG time ago but hey, anything but cover the disaster the orange one is dumping on our heads right now...deny funding for obamacare then scream it's falling apart!
Rick Perry in charge of our nuke power plants!?!, DeVoss in charge of public edumacation, fracking king in charge of EPA, just wait till you see how much better granny and grandpa will be without medicare and social security, but trickle down works right, RIGHT?
The hits just keep coming..
 
#42 ·
No idea if these traitors will be held accountable but follow the Russian money guys..

Spot on Chas!

We need the Special Prosecutor to investigate the Clinton Foundations receipt of millions in cash from Russia! Bill's $500K speech in Moscow for an investment bank backed by the Kremlin was part and parcel of the Uranium One deal. And of course the Hilldebeest worked the deal through the State Department that resulted in the approval of the sale of Uranium reserves to Rosatom. You can read all about it in that great bastion of conservative views, The New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...-control-of-uranium-company.html?mcubz=0&_r=0

Bill and Hillary should have been in prison loooooong before last years election. Hillary wouldn't have been able to set up a secret private server from a prison cell. And isn't it AMAZING that when Hillary lost the election, the international donations for the Clinton Foundation dried up completely???

You libs need to take your blinders off when pointing the finger at corruption via Russian contacts. If Trump or any of his associates are actually guilty of a crime, they should be prosecuted, but "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." Perhaps Bill can share a cell with the Donald? The Clinton Foundation has been one of the largest criminal enterprises in modern History since the day it was founded.

All of you libs screaming for justice is the absolute height of Hypocrisy!

JPS
 
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