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    Default First post in the Mosin-Nagant forum; 1930 Izhevsk ex-Dragoon

    I'm primarily a German and American collector. I've every make of WW2 K98, and examples of all U.S. arms save a Krag-Jorgenson. Spun my collection a little sideways and decided to have one representative example from one of each of the 'major powers' of WW2. I now have my long rifle Russian example to go with my non-refurbished 1936 Tula Nagant pistol.

    This is an ex-Dragoon modified post war with the pinned 91/30 rear sight, and lined sling slots. Bolt mismatch, pre-'28 receiver, rearsenal box/slash mark on butt. Any thing else you can tell me about it? Shoots damn well, also. I had to add an original sling and cleaning rod from Numrich to complete it.

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    Last two. I waited until I could find a decent example in 'original' finish, not re-blued and shellacked, and God, no billboard import mark.

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    That's a good honest example of a war time Russian 91/30.

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    Nice one. Looks like it may have been imported through Romania. Those ones saw significant use after refurb based on condition and are among my favorites.

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    Double line, but discreet, import mark. All I lack to complete my "major powers" collection is a decent Carcano with matching stock/bolt/receiver.

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    Welcome to the dark side...Does the receiver have the Soviet Crest stamped over an old Imperial crest? I can't tell for sure from the photo. The circle "t" on the receiver and 41 on the tang is interesting . I suppose those would have been added in a satellite country? Neat rifle. I like the worn looking ones as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoots High View Post
    That's a good honest example of a war time Russian 91/30.
    It's not a war time 91/30. It's a 1930 Dragoon that got refurbished after the war, converted to 91/30 and then used. At some point the bolt was lost and got replaced. Stock is post war as is the numbering on the butt plate and trigger guard. There is a refurb mark (square with line) on the stock and the receiver. Thanks for sharing.

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    My original Nagant (matched) to go with the Dragoon. I use is as my carry piece in WW2 SS re-enacting.

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    Looks like an original finish Nagant. No import marks?

    And is that blood on the floor? You guys have very realistic reenactments.

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    None.

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    The rifle is nice, with honest wear. But the revolver is NICE.

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    2 nice examples!
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    I have 3 P38s, a HSc, 38H, M13, M14, P08, PP, and PPk I could use. Trouble with a semi-auto pistol is the blank cartridge won't operate the slide. A revolver doesn't have that problem.

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    Wait wait wait, back up to the rifle. msniper nailed it. However, the "circle T" has been said to be a Czech mark, and what's up with the "41" on top of the tang? I don't have mine on hand for comparison, how similar is it to the Finnish capture "41" stamp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DisasterDog View Post
    Wait wait wait, back up to the rifle. msniper nailed it. However, the "circle T" has been said to be a Czech mark, and what's up with the "41" on top of the tang? I don't have mine on hand for comparison, how similar is it to the Finnish capture "41" stamp?
    Here is a Finn 41 stamp. Different stamp and different location.






    And the Czech circle-T is also in a sequence with other stamps, and much smaller.


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    So it's neither of these?

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    Correct. No positive ID for either Finn or Czech connection.

    Seems to be consistent with racerguy2's observation, a post-war rebuild supplied to Romania or Baltic Region nation.

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    http://www.mosinnagant.net/global%20...38_carbine.asp

    Martin, here's where I got the "circle T" from. But looking through photos, it seems there are differing "T"s, as pointed out on another thread here. And in fact, the example you provide has the tips of the T almost touching the circle. So actually a great example of variance if they are indeed the same.
    You are correct on the "41", not Finn by a long shot.
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    Interesting that it is still a '41,' though.

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