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    Default Hep with sword identification please

    Acquired this recently. I was able to find some information on it but Iím new to Japanese edged weapons. Any help with what type it is and the inscriptions on the tang would be greatly appreciated!!


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    The long signature is the date. The period is showa. See if you can’t complete it. http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/kanji/nengo.htm

    The 2 character signature is the smith’s name of very common characters, both of which can be found in this link: http://www.jssus.org/

    Kanji -> nihonto kanji -> kanji for mei

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    With the seki stamp it’s not traditionally made and just a wwii collectible. Nothing with any artistic value.

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    Your sword looks really nice, it is a Type 98 Shin Gunto.

    The wooden scabbard would have had a leather combat cover over top of it.

    The sword knot's colors of blue and brown denote a company grade officer (Lieutenant or Captain rank).

    I cannot make out the maker, or date. In general, the Type 98 was made up till 1943/44. And was superseded by the Type 3 1944 pattern Shin Gunto.

    The sword has monetary value as a collectors piece. The sword knot alone sells for over a 100.00. With Japanese swords, its all about the blade condition.

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    Here is a more direct link to that form of dating (from the foundation of the Empire): http://japaneseswordindex.com/kanji/zodiac.htm
    [it comes out to Feb, 1940]

    For Showa smiths, I like this page: http://japaneseswordindex.com/seki.htm

    [包光 (Kanemitsu) Real Name: 沢田 三郎]]
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    2602 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Pennington View Post
    Here is a more direct link to that form of dating (from the foundation of the Empire): http://japaneseswordindex.com/kanji/zodiac.htm
    [it comes out to Feb, 1940]

    For Showa smiths, I like this page: http://japaneseswordindex.com/seki.htm

    [包光 (Kanemitsu) Real Name: 沢田 三郎]]
    So sword created Feb 1940 correct?


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    Correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Pennington View Post
    Correct!
    Thanks man. Would you know if that would be the correct scabbard for that style?


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    Yes. Itís missing the leather cover, but thatís quite common. The leather cracks and falls off over the years, especially if carried extensively in the field.
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    Date is 2602 = 1942, not 2/40. Close! Bruce got the smith right.

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    Good catch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reeder View Post
    Date is 2602 = 1942, not 2/40. Close! Bruce got the smith right.
    Thanks man! Did you by chance catch the month?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Pennington View Post
    Yes. Itís missing the leather cover, but thatís quite common. The leather cracks and falls off over the years, especially if carried extensively in the field.
    The scabbard appears to be wood just an FYI. Were hey supposed to be metal.


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    Some were exterior lined with aluminum, at extra cost, others were metal (iron) standard.
    Later war variations like yours were covered with leather without the exterior metal lining. The earlier variations could also be purchased with the leather covering.

    Chuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lambo35 View Post
    Some were exterior lined with aluminum, at extra cost, others were metal (iron) standard.
    Later war variations like yours were covered with leather without the exterior metal lining. The earlier variations could also be purchased with the leather covering.

    Chuck.
    Thanks for the help!


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