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    I've always enjoyed seeing the regiment markings on Imperial German equipment, I thought it might be nice to have a thread with a bunch to look at. So, not just German but any country and not just bayonets but any marked military equipment. Bonus points for obscurity!
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    An S98 marked to the 37th regiment. Scabbard not matching but from the same regiment, and shrunk (bought this bayonet as-is for $15 in an antique shop in New Orleans in '87 or so).
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    1879 Reichs Revolver marked to the 1st Corps supply column (I think).
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    1852 Percussion pistol marked to the 16th Uhlan Regiment
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    British 1888, unit marked "FMF", unknown to me (if someone does know post it and I'll update the post)
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    Nepal Snider rifle marked to the Rifle Regiment
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    Nepali Gehendra plus the lever bows of the same
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    A Martini-Henry bayonet with a Nepali Regimental I think is the Yamdal Regiment plus the marked out original British markings
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    Turning relics into near-relics since 2005.

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ID:	3686699Here is mine, a Regimental Stein belonging to a Captain Andreas Bechtler of the 11th Bavarian Infantry Regiment (so long as I am reading that correctly, I may not be).
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    Norwegian Kammerlader 1846/55. Christiansands Musketeer Corps, Infantry Brigade,
    Ross MkIII unknown marking.
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    This was a fun one to research.

    D pattern East India Company musket, made 1842.

    Marked to HM 31st Regiment of Foot, then stationed in India.

    The 31st were involved in the 1842 punitive campaign into Afghanistan, and retained flintlocks at that time, until after their return to India in 1843. Tensions in the area were heightened, (the 1842 Campaign was a disaster) and the 31st was rearmed with brand new percussion guns. In late 1845, the First Anglo-Sikh war touched off, and concluded in 1846, at which time the 31st left India. The stock has an 1848 reissue stamp to an EIC unit, (the gun stayed in India) and it came out of IMA's Nepal cache, presumably carried to Nepal by a mutineer some 10 years later in the late 1850's.

    I bought it untouched and uncleaned, and did not find the mark until days later. Sometimes, you just get lucky.

    Edit to add, I was able to hit a small gong at 100 yd with it on my first outing. Even with the age and wear, a fantastic shooter.
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    A few British/Commonwealth.
    Sharps 1855 2nd British contract - 1st (Kings) Dragoon Guards (India 1857 & Taku Forts 1860),
    Snider MkII** Artillery - No 4 Battery 12 Brigade R.A., ( Gosport then Alderney),
    Snider MkIII Tasmanian Govt.,
    Braendlin Albini, South Australia,
    and Martini Henry Artillery Carbine, Sth. Aus.
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    A couple of my more interesting examples- an 1886 dated M1866 Marked to the Landwehr Infantry. It came with a German-ized scabbard but unfortunately unmarked... who can ID the maker, please?
    An excellent matched M1884 by WKC.
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    Spine script looks like Manf Imp de Chat, so Chatellerault.

    VERY nice early one with the rivet in the 2nd grip cord, German capture not withstanding. EDIT, see pic below, from about the same time. Also German captured, but sadly unmarked (just new frogstud)
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ID:	3667133 Two First Pattern Quillbacks with the following: '00 Prussian 3.G.R.2.39. and a '02 Saxon 107.R.7.244. Click image for larger version. 

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    Hello Gents,

    Here are a few unusual Regimental's on some rather rare bayonets.


    Here's an Carter EB3, however the blade has been salvaged from a damaged French Mle 1886 Bayonet.

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    This EB55 is extremely rare and even more so considering how unusual it is to find a unit marked example.

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    This S1871 Jaeger Hirschfanger Bayonet

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    And this example was an early war captured and reissued Mle 1886 Lebel Infantry Rifle.

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    Howzabout some sockets! I have some nagging doubts about the second pic, mind you... opinions welcomed!
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    WW1 German ERSATZ bayonet made from U.S. socket blade. Marked RJR234 7K.32 234 Reserve Infantry Regiment, Company 7, Weapon 32). Has a Fraktur over the U.S. designation. Fits the Gewehr 98 rifle perfectly.

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    M1913 saber marked to D Troop, 11th US Cavalry.

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    Few more:
    Werder M69 (converted) Bavarian 6th Battalion.; Werndl M67 27th Landesschustzen Rgt.; Werndl M77 Gendarmerie Daktyloskopie?; Manl. M88/90 Landweher Rgt.; Belgian Albini 3rd Rgt. Chasseurs a Pied; Millbank-Amsler Zurich; New Zealand Callisher & Terry carbine..
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    Here my two pieces. The first is a beer stein marked Infantrie Rgt.11 Comp. 1903/05 Munchen. To Gem. Daimler. The stein is a Lithophane stein. If you hold the bottom up to the light and look down into the stein, there is an image of a german man and woman drinking beer.
    My second piece is a Model 1898 a/A bayonet with a single piece wood grip and a flash hider on grip , and a replacement metal scabbard. It is marked 65.R.3.138.. Vaughn
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    Here are a couple of Scots all-steel pistols. The 2nd battalion of the RHR - Black Watch -was raised in 1759 and absorbed into the 1st in 1763.Click image for larger version. 

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    Good to see a military marked example, Birmingham or ??

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    No proof marks. Different makers' marks on locks.Click image for larger version. 

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    Vaughn, could you post a photo of your a/A quillback bayonet showing the flashguard? I've never seen an early S98 with a flashguard. Thank you, TED....

    P/s: Should you decide to sell it, please consider contacting me.

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    Would appear to be local manufacture, pity not John Murdoch, Doune .
    Recall reading an article in Country Life in the early 50's recommending the Scottish steel pistols as an investment.

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    I was talking to HerrKaiser about his stein being legit. His stein has this image in the bottom so I am sure it is legit. Vaughn
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    Pea Shooter & HerrKaiser
    Both steins were made after 1950. The shape of the handle and the wide base are indicative of the replica/souvenir steins made for the tourist market in Germany during the postwar period. The lithophane of the soldier and woman as well as one of two women reading a letter are copies from antique steins. Google stein collectors for more information.
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    Thanks for the information, but just as a question, how did they get away with not putting the required "made in W. Germany" stamp on the steins. I have dozens of other beer steins and all that are post-war have such markings.

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    27.Ldst.B is there for 27.Landsturm Battalion, GD should be Gendarmerie Depot or District with location designation.

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    Thanks Andy. The Werndl 77 carbine only has the G.D. and number. Would the Gendarmerie only have a sequence of numbers, as there is no other indication of a district/location? This led me to think the D may be a branch of the Gendarmerie.
    I had thought of writing to www.kriminalmuseum.at on the subject, but perhaps you are better placed to raise the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerrKaiser View Post
    Thanks for the information, but just as a question, how did they get away with not putting the required "made in W. Germany" stamp on the steins. I have dozens of other beer steins and all that are post-war have such markings.
    These types of steins were made to sell in Germany to tourists. They did not need export information included in their manufacture. Those that did get sold overseas had a label attached to meet any import requirements. There are several articles on regimental steins on the stein collector's website: http://stein-collectors.org/
    You can learn more about how to detect new regimental steins here: http://stein-collectors.org/library/...ls/Repros.html
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    I read an article by Mark Chervenka about reproductions and after comparing the points I know my regimental stein is a repro. Vaughn

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    You should write to the Amt, anyway it should be looked how were named Gendarmery commandos, and the Depot could be real on that piece.

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    Here's my (first) P1888 bayonet, acquired a couple weeks ago from a Forum member:

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    I only have one other unit marked, unidentified thus far. No good pics, will get some tomorrow!
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    A few more: 1871 - 18 Field Hospital (Train Btn. Feldlazarett) + 49 Reserve Rgt. scabbard; Danish R/B - ?; 98aA - 47 Rgt "King LudwigIII of Bavaria"; 98/05 aA - uncertain, but discussed in an earlier post + 7 Foot Artillery scabbard.
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