Has anyone seen a Type 30, 35, or Type 38 rifle/carbine import marked"MADE IN JAPAN"?
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    Default Has anyone seen a Type 30, 35, or Type 38 rifle/carbine import marked"MADE IN JAPAN"?

    I'm currently researching foreign-supplied small arms used by the Republicans during the Spanish Civil War; many secondary sources (Gerald Howson's Arms for Spain) note the sale of Japanese rifles by the Soviets from ex-Imperial Russian stocks. Additionally, primary source documentation namely, two postwar Nationalist manuals of captured small arms, Armas Automaticas y Fusiles de Repeticion and Prontuario de Armamento by Capt. Mariano Villoslada Minon note the presence of Japanese rifles captured from Republican forces, noting that some Type 38 rifles were converted to 7.92x57. Additionally, Spanish archeaologists have uncovered 6.5x50 rounds on battlefield surveys.

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    This image is from Armas Automaticas y Fusiles de Repeticion

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    These three are from Prontuario de Armamento.


    Around the time Sam Cummings' Interarmco aquired and imported the leftover weapons of the Spanish Civil War in the late 1950s and in the early 1960s, the bulk of these rifles were advertised through Interarmco's "Ye Olde Hunter" mail-order copy. However, contemporary with the sale of these rifles (Mosin-Nagants, Winchester 1895s, Gras rifles, Vetterli-Vitalis, Mannlichers), a series of Type 30 were offered alongside the second wave of Spanish imports through the Potomac Arms outlet, which apparently sold all of the lesser quality and/or lower quantity surplus arms and odds & ends that weren't practical to sell through Ye Olde Hunter.

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    This ad dates from the October 1960 issue of Guns Magazine.

    Characteristics of these rifles would likely first evidence their First World War Russian use, but possible Spanish identifying features could be a "MADE IN JAPAN" mark similar to "MADE IN USSR" marks on SCW Mosin-Nagant rifles or the "MADE IN ITALY"/"MADE IN AUSTRIA" marks on Vetterli-Vitali, Carcano, and Mannlicher rifles used in the conflict. It is also possible that these rifles could feature a caliber marking on the barrel, something that Interarms applied to surplus weapons during this period. A final positive identifier would be the presence of the Spanish "MP 8" inventory mark exclusive to rifles cataloged after the conflict, shown below:

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    So... does anyone have a rifle that might exhibit some of these features?

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    I believe that these were imported before the country of manufacture had to be stamped on the weapons. Even later imports on are stamped "Japan".

    Frank
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    I have seen some Type 38's stamped, "Made in China" on the barrel.

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