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    Question Question about Enfield sniper no.4 mk I

    I saw this one today. But I never had one in my hand before so I am not and expert. So any help would be appreciated if it is correct sniper.
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    Bolt matches receiver
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    Not enough pics to say 100% , but the scope and mount look ok, and the s/n is in a block for LB snipers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller Tyme View Post
    Not enough pics to say 100% , but the scope and mount look ok, and the s/n is in a block for LB snipers.
    Thank you
    Last edited by rajko84; 06-20-2020 at 08:18 PM.

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    Scope serial number 22902 and bracket are real and are English made. This scope and bracket set was on a 1944 No. 4 Mk. I (T) BSA Shirley made rifle serial number L32108. It is missing the matching serial numbered No. 8 scope case.

    The rifle is a No. 4 Mk. I* (T) and is Canadian made. It was assembled in 1946, just after WWII, for Britain. In American comparison, the 90L8xxx series are like M1D. The M1C and M1D arrived basically in time for the Korean War.

    In service this rifle 90L8325 would have had a Canadian scope made by R.E.L. and these are very rare and expensive, more than the rifle. A caution the serial number sequence 1-C, 2-C etc. was reused a number of times, so there were two scopes made by R.E.L. with the same serial number, but in this case ONLY one of those scope sets would be correct.

    QUESTION: What is the scope number on the top of the butt, just below the cocking piece? That would be the scope SN for this rifle. It looks like 270C.

    These No. 4 (T) rifles, unlike the M1D were matched to ONE scope set when converted. The M1C were originally so fitted as well, but the U.S. soon gave up on trying to keep them matched up.

    When these No. 4 (T) rifles were sold surplus and thousands of them were imported from the UK to North America, most of the big surplus dealers did not bother to match up the scope sets when they sold the rifles. As a result most sets in North America are mismatched. I maintain a database of the No. 4 (T) and have been able to reconnect about a dozen serial numbered component pairs. e.g. A rifle in Scotland and its scope in the USA. A rifle I imported to Canada from PA and then sold to the scope set owner in NE. Sadly the rifle for this scope set L32108 / 22902 has not been found yet. Neither has the correct C No. 32 Mk. 3 scope SN 270-C for this rifle. Another scope numbered 270-C was originally matched to rifle 68L3232. That rifle has turned up, but not the scope which was either a C No. 32 Mk. I or a C No. 32 Mk. IA.

    Although any of the No. 32 scopes, except the Lyman Trade Pattern scopes and No. 32 Mk. 4 scopes, will clamp onto almost any No. 4 (T) rifle, the scopes and rifle barrels are not collimated. It is nothing like the interchangeability we see with the M1D and modern Picatinny Rail System. We are spoiled today.

    Being a Canadian made rifle there is a lot of interest in seeing these repatriated here to Canada ... national pride and all that. We can legally import them from the USA using a firm like Borderview in Lynden, WA. They are an FFL and firearms import/export business.

    Sniper rifles are expensive and it is easy to get a very expensive lesson. The old advice "BUY THE BOOK, THEN BUY THE GUN" is very appropriate!

    As an ex-Canadian infantry Captain, I have chosen to specialize in the Canadian No. 4 Mk. I* (T) and British No. 4 Mk. I (T) sniper rifles.

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    Thank you for great information

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    There's no specific work, neither on line nor in print, specifically covering the Canadian sniper rifle program. It is very interesting subject, especially withe the late and post war development.

    Are there any reproduction Trade Pattern mounts? I have a Lyman Alaskin looking for a home on a parts C No4MkI*.
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