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    Default German #1 reticles anyone?

    I hope this is the proper forum for this.

    I am really wanting to purchase a new scope with a German #1 reticle. And I have hit a brick wall and beat my head against it! No one, not even German companies that I know of still makes this reticle!!

    So if anyone knows of a company other than Leopold that makes the #1 reticle I would be eternally grateful. Thank you.

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    you are probably, as you describe, looking for a 'needle in a haystack'. i know what you're looking for since i happen to own one; came across it just by chance. it's an older European Zeiss or other brand. it's probably a 30 or 40 year old item by now.

    not trying to be snarky but you seem to be aware that it's not available now, so rather curious how you expect to find a "new one". if you spend some time searching, you may be able to find an older one that is close to new condition. that's the sort of situation with mine. wish you luck, anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    you are probably, as you describe, looking for a 'needle in a haystack'. i know what you're looking for since i happen to own one; came across it just by chance. it's an older European Zeiss or other brand. it's probably a 30 or 40 year old item by now.

    not trying to be snarky but you seem to be aware that it's not available now, so rather curious how you expect to find a "new one". if you spend some time searching, you may be able to find an older one that is close to new condition. that's the sort of situation with mine. wish you luck, anyhow.
    Thanks man! Haha I “expect” to find a new one with the hope perhaps I get the right person on the phone and maybe it’s a custom thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK PHILLIPS View Post
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    thanks DK I appreciate it. That actually looks interesting.

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    Why did companies quite making these reticles? Especially German ones, seems sacrilegious.

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    the scope companies, same as most others try to satisfy the market demand. they mfg what the buyers are asking for. the last few years, the market demand is for the complicated style scope reticles, which shooters want for their "tactical" rifles. there is not a lot of demand now for the old style basic type reticles. you will have to watch for the reticle you want, on the used market or find something new that is similar.

    i like the old style reticles, same as you. there is not much similar stuff on the new market now. we are like the dinosaurs.

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    I think the older Weaver post reticle scopes are pretty close to the German #1. You can still pick up some of the older Weaver scopes from Ebay but they are pretty pricey now.

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    Weaver 3x9 did have very similar..
    companies catering to want to be snipers ..for hunting..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    the scope companies, same as most others try to satisfy the market demand. they mfg what the buyers are asking for. the last few years, the market demand is for the complicated style scope reticles, which shooters want for their "tactical" rifles. there is not a lot of demand now for the old style basic type reticles. you will have to watch for the reticle you want, on the used market or find something new that is similar.

    i like the old style reticles, same as you. there is not much similar stuff on the new market now. we are like the dinosaurs.
    this,

    and in the American market, the demand was low to begin with, and as Frosty mentioned, every one now whats a Tacticool reticle,


    Ironsight and other scope repair houses may offer a conversion
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    https://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/...mance-summary/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    the scope companies, same as most others try to satisfy the market demand. they mfg what the buyers are asking for. the last few years, the market demand is for the complicated style scope reticles, which shooters want for their "tactical" rifles. there is not a lot of demand now for the old style basic type reticles. you will have to watch for the reticle you want, on the used market or find something new that is similar.

    i like the old style reticles, same as you. there is not much similar stuff on the new market now. we are like the dinosaurs.
    Ok, thank you. I have noticed the shift to these complicated (some over-complicated IMHO) reticles and I don’t honestly get it. Part of the “tacti-cool” movement I suppose. I’m glad there’s someone else like me! Perhaps we should start a Dinosaurs club 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyman1903 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    the scope companies, same as most others try to satisfy the market demand. they mfg what the buyers are asking for. the last few years, the market demand is for the complicated style scope reticles, which shooters want for their "tactical" rifles. there is not a lot of demand now for the old style basic type reticles. you will have to watch for the reticle you want, on the used market or find something new that is similar.

    i like the old style reticles, same as you. there is not much similar stuff on the new market now. we are like the dinosaurs.
    this,

    and in the American market, the demand was low to begin with, and as Frosty mentioned, every one now whats a Tacticool reticle,


    Ironsight and other scope repair houses may offer a conversion
    Interesting thank you, and I agree about the “tacticool” crap. I assume Iron sight is a company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK PHILLIPS View Post
    https://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/...mance-summary/

    I ordered Scope off Here ..much info and down drops for many countries.
    thanks DK

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    hi again, 8mm_ mauser. out of curiosity, last nite i looked at German/EURO scopes on ebay. there are piles of them listed with #1 reticles. lots of choice to pick from from several sellers. they all have lots of positive feedback. i will probably be considering two or three of this type myself. my son has bought two or three in the past, with no issues. so the scopes with #1 reticles are available, just not in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    hi again, 8mm_ mauser. out of curiosity, last nite i looked at German/EURO scopes on ebay. there are piles of them listed with #1 reticles. lots of choice to pick from from several sellers. they all have lots of positive feedback. i will probably be considering two or three of this type myself. my son has bought two or three in the past, with no issues. so the scopes with #1 reticles are available, just not in the US.
    Thank you, I appreciate it. They were used right? And if a scope was listed for sale outside the US could I still buy it or is that illegal?

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    Remember rear base adjustable most are.
    some have two adjustments in scope body..
    26 mm rings expensive if quality is desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kddiep View Post
    I think the older Weaver post reticle scopes are pretty close to the German #1. You can still pick up some of the older Weaver scopes from Ebay but they are pretty pricey now.
    Almost all the US based scope makers had some version of the German #1 reticle in their offerings. I have vintage post & cross hair scopes from Weaver, Leupold, Redfield and Bausch & Lomb on some of my rifles. Most US hunters and target shooters prefer duplex reticles though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8mm_mauser View Post
    Interesting thank you, and I agree about the “tacticool” crap. I assume Iron sight is a company?
    yep

    they do good work too,

    the refurbed an ART II for me and a handful of older weavers


    https://ironsightinc.com/

    click the redfield link, reticle number 1 or 2 may be what you are looking for,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyman1903 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 8mm_mauser View Post
    Interesting thank you, and I agree about the “tacticool” crap. I assume Iron sight is a company?
    yep

    they do good work too,

    the refurbed an ART II for me and a handful of older weavers


    https://ironsightinc.com/

    click the redfield link, reticle number 1 or 2 may be what you are looking for,
    Yes! Reticle number 1 is exactly what I’m looking for. God bless you!

    So I have a dumb question; why was this #1 reticle in the redfield area? Like are redfield scopes the only ones that this is an option on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK PHILLIPS View Post
    Remember rear base adjustable most are.
    some have two adjustments in scope body..
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    Quote Originally Posted by reloder56 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kddiep View Post
    I think the older Weaver post reticle scopes are pretty close to the German #1. You can still pick up some of the older Weaver scopes from Ebay but they are pretty pricey now.
    Almost all the US based scope makers had some version of the German #1 reticle in their offerings. I have vintage post & cross hair scopes from Weaver, Leupold, Redfield and Bausch & Lomb on some of my rifles. Most US hunters and target shooters prefer duplex reticles though.
    Gary
    Thanks guys. I appreciate it

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    I think Meopta still has the #1 reticle available on some of their higher end scopes. Not long ago they offered it in their 6x42mm Meopro model. Might find one of those still floating around new with some searching. They are one of the few companies that still offer the #4 reticle frequently too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkP View Post
    I think Meopta still has the #1 reticle available on some of their higher end scopes. Not long ago they offered it in their 6x42mm Meopro model. Might find one of those still floating around new with some searching. They are one of the few companies that still offer the #4 reticle frequently too.
    thank you, what country are they out of?

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    Meopta brand was mfg in Czechoslovakia. so now either the Czech Republic, or Slovakia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8mm_mauser View Post
    Yes! Reticle number 1 is exactly what I’m looking for. God bless you!

    So I have a dumb question; why was this #1 reticle in the redfield area? Like are redfield scopes the only ones that this is an option on?

    don't think so, I think they just put the options in that section vs repeating it in the various pages,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DK PHILLIPS View Post
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    Leupolds calls this version the "Pig Plex", they also offer a standard version without the ring at the cross.
    I've been using this version for a couple of months, I didn't know how well it would work for me but, so far, I like it.
    The scope is a 1 to 4x28mm objective.
    It's mounted on a CZ 527 in 222 Remington.
    I tweaked my handloads so that, with a 100 yard zero the bottom of the ring works at 50 yards and the top at 200.
    You can also use the ring for rough range estimation.
    No muss, no fuss.
    I also found a bolt on rail for this gun (it normally uses proprietary rings), that, combined with low rings, allows a solid cheekweld.
    I also got fed up with the overly complicated, useless and expensive reticles on most scopes.

    I do not know if this reticle is offered on other models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkP View Post
    I think Meopta still has the #1 reticle available on some of their higher end scopes. Not long ago they offered it in their 6x42mm Meopro model. Might find one of those still floating around new with some searching. They are one of the few companies that still offer the #4 reticle frequently too.
    I have one of the Meopta 6X scopes with German #1 reticle. Camera Land - Gunboards sponsor - had these on clearance a while back.
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