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    Quote Originally Posted by unclegeorge View Post
    Hi all,maybe a little bit of topic here,please excuse me, but I have to ask you all some info,was there any stock that looks like a cg80 stock but made of polymere or plastic material ever made.
    Here is a little about it https://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...72#post1450972
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    Quote Originally Posted by swede View Post
    Looks like the original Lyman sight has been replaced with another Lyman sight . It has been shortened at the bottom ? Also , some letters or name was milled off the sight & "UB" was stamped in its place ?
    At last....That must be the "Lyman-style" Uno Berg-diopter then?
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    I am not familar that sight . Is it a Lyman that was modified by Uno Berg ? If so , what is the difference ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swede View Post
    I am not familar that sight . Is it a Lyman that was modified by Uno Berg ? If so , what is the difference ?
    Thats my problem. I dont have a m/Berg in my collection. What I know is that the, by its time, very well-known shooter Uno Berg did present a diopter that was approved around 1954 and told to be of "Lyman-style". I probably have seen it on pics but unable to understand if its a m/Lyman or m/Berg. When I get one that is proven to be m/Berg I will get back to you.
    BTW. Think I have found your former fm/23-36 owner W.Lundh in my big book. Will produce a photo of him when day-light allowes me.
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    That is great if you can post a photo of W. Lundh !!!!

    Also , note this sight appears to have the elevation screw shortened . This screw is not a typical 60 degree thread , but similar to an ACME thread with a spiral . You run out of vertical travel at the #8 mark on the elevation leg of the sight . That elevation leg has also been cut flush with the bottom of the sight , rather than extending down into the original cutout in the side of the stock . The 4 corners of the base of the sight are rounded & blued . I don't know if that is original or not ?

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    Here is Viktor Lundh from Ystads Skyttegille. Born 9th of November 1899 in in Sövestad. Married 1928 with Betty Nilsson. Member in the shooting-club since 1936 and in this board since 1937, head of the range and administrator for the ammunition since 1939. Belongs the shooting-class 5 (highest). Have following shooting-badges: "Lägre årtalsmärke in silver, Skyttemärke in gold, Riksskyttemedal and mästarmärket in bronze."



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    Arilar : Thanks for the photo & translation . Are the "W" and "V" used as the same letter in the Swedish language ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swede View Post
    Arilar : Thanks for the photo & translation . Are the "W" and "V" used as the same letter in the Swedish language ?
    No, they are not but pronounced the same. But.....its obvious that often people spelled their names as what were popular for the moment. For example in the 30s-40s many Olof spelled Olov because of a Norwegian royalty Olov was popular at the time. Take a look at the "m/G.Andersson thread" and notice that Andersson now and then is spelled Anderson and sofort. I guess Viktor was baptized that way but fancied Wiktor.
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    Hi! I start this old thread with some info. I am the owner of the Fm/23-36 Trial Match Rifle with serila number 1052. I alos have one Fm /23.

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    M45B : Welcome to the Forum !!!! I have added your fm23/36 serial number to the short list of reported numbers . Post some photos of your rifle if you can . We would like to see it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by M45B View Post
    Hi! I start this old thread with some info. I am the owner of the Fm/23-36 Trial Match Rifle with serila number 1052. I alos have one Fm /23.

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    Pics or they dont exist! . Just kidding, but pics makes it even more fun. The fm/23-36 is very rare and of the few remaining several has gone t´hrough minor or major changes during its life. Tell more about yours!!
    Look for the fm/23 thread and post pics and info regarding that rifle also.
    And very welcome to this great Forum. Great to have more genuine Swedes attending
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    Hi again!

    Thanks for all the great info about the fm 23/36. I bought my rifle together with a fm 23 from a Swedish collector in the early 2000s.
    It was hard to find any info about this rifle so I did not know if it was alright?

    I have studdy your picture and I am not sure if it is the right diptersight on it?

    Almost all parts are original, except magazines plate (do not know if it's the right name) in pic # 5(it`s from a Husqvarna)

    Please let me know what you think about this rifle.

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    Look at posting #12. You sight does appear to be correct. Also, posting #41 looks like your rifle sight.
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    Your rifle looks correct to me . There are 3 different fm23/36's shown in the book " Crown Jewels - the Mauser in Sweden , a Century of Accuracy and Precision " by Dana Jones . This is the " bible " on Swedish Mausers . One has a solid front sight like yours , while the other 2 have a knurled nut holding an aperture insert in place . Your Lyman 48M diopter looks correct as well . Your bolt sleeve has the correct relief cut on the right side and the shortened cocking piece & firing pin . Looks like yours had a Unit disc at one time . Your floorplate was probably misplaced at sometime in the past & replaced . You have the correct 1935 receiver without the thumb cutout . Your barrel should have some markings under the wood similar to this " Stig. 210mm " over " KUL. 3.6 " . Not sure every barrel has the same exact marking ?

    Does your buttplate have the knurked extension that pulls down from the bottom ? You need the loosen the rear buttplate screw to pull it down .

    You have a very RARE Trial Match Rifle , one of only 89 made !!!!!!!!!

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    Thanks! Yes, my rifle have the knurked extension that pulls down from the bottom. As you mentioned, my had a unite disc at one time. What could it mean, that the rifle belonged to a military unit / regiment?

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    Thanks swede!

    The Swedish collector that I bought the gun from said that the Swedish army had used this gun as a experimental rifles to their snipers. But they had to make way for the new m/41 rifle.


    Do you know if it is true? Or is this a rifle only for the military competitions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M45B View Post
    Thanks swede!

    The Swedish collector that I bought the gun from said that the Swedish army had used this gun as a experimental rifles to their snipers. But they had to make way for the new m/41 rifle.


    Do you know if it is true? Or is this a rifle only for the military competitions?

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    Frankly, this model were never much a military trial rifle. Didnt has so much to do with the military even from the beginning. Take the time and read the thread from top to bottom. Dont rely to much on swedish collectors because they have seldom bothered to get involved in the civilian Swedish sportshooting history. This model is a part of that. Never intended as a sniper. Maybe used in military competitions but surely not the major rule for the fm/23-36. I am glad you are taken interest in its history!
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    M45B, to understand the fm/23-36 it is crucial to first start with the fm/23-story. Here a link to that thread https://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...ls-Match-Rifle .
    Please, post also pics on your fm/23 in that thread!!
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    Default Pics of my fm/23, fm23/36, and others

    Greetings All,
    Here are a few pics of the Trials rifles I am very lucky to own. The fm/23 (still in its original 1924 configuration)and one of my fm/23-36's are nearly sequential and the thought is that an fm/23 was returned (damaged?) and the serial number reissued/applied to a fm/23-36 (1935 dated) receiver. Later that same rifle was reworked into a m/63 configuration. The unaltered fm/23-36 I own had a stock plate applied to it at one time but has long since disappeared. Additionally, its unusual because the front sight appears to be reversed. I looked at it closely and it appears to have been that way for quite awhile.

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    Really nice group of rifles !!!!!!!!! Look on page 175 & 176 in Crown Jewels & you will see your same front sight on 2 fm23/36's . These appear to be correct on this model .

    There is also a fm23/36 on page 174 without the knurled nut .

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    Very nice collection! The 63 reworked version looks interesting, especially the rear sling swivel adaptation on the forearm. Certainly a welcome change for the match shooter as it acted as an effective handstop. I wonder where the work was done. Thanks for sharing

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    CanadaBoy & sbhva : Can you add serial number info to the list we have collected here ?

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    Default Another Fm23/36 with a fm23 serial number?

    Good Day,
    While looking on GB today, I noticed that a fm23/36 has been offered for sale (the pictures are from the auction).
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=547318097

    It appears it is another example of a fm23 that was returned, the serial number transferred to a 1935-dated reinforced receiver, and reissued as a fm23/36 target rifle. Like most fm23-36 rifles observed so far, the sling slot on the bottom fore end of the stock shows no signs of a "slot button" having used ever. This rifle adds to the information we have on these very rare rifles.
    https://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...54758-Fm-23-36

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    I bought from this seller before, deal went well.

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    As a fan of Swedish rifles (I own 6 so that must mean something) I found this whole thread to be extremely interesting and very informative. So many thanks to all who posted and some beautiful rifles and in my favorite caliber. Frank

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    So who is Viking1911? I would venture a guess they are a member here.
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    I'm not sure who it was but he/she secured a wonderful rifle at a good price. The stock alone is something very, very rare.
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    I thought it would have went for around $3k. I was surprised the opening bid went uncontested. Had I had the money, I would have given it a go.

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    Default fm23-36 sold on GB in 2018

    Good Day All,
    Attached are pictures of another fm23-36 sold on GB for future reference. Thanks to "junze" for offering it. I was VERY surprised is sold for under $1500. There were a few issues with the rifle which likely contributed to the lack of bids. That said, its still a rare rifle and one the current owner should be very happy with.
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