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    Default Up Close: Finnish Model 28-76 Rifle

    This rifle was build in 1977 at Weapons Depot 1 by the Finnish Military as a competition rifle. The birch stock has biathlon comp features with a high comb and pistol grip. The fore end is inletted on the bottom and left side with aluminum rails. These are used with adjustable sling swivels, palm supports and bipods.

    The receiver was built in 1894 by Izhevsk. It is glass bedded into the stock and the barrel is free floating. The receiver has been modified on the rear left side by milling and tapping. This allows the competition diopter sight to be installed with its dove tail shaped base. A small portion of the right outer receiver rail is removed to allow for the turned down bolt handle to close. The stock is also recessed in this area.

    The bolt is heavily modified with a flattened turn down bolt handle. The bolt is of unknown origin, but the bolt head and connector bar are also from Izhevsk. The striker has a portion of the top left shoulder beveled so it can clear the rear sight during operation. This is one of the smoothest Mosin Nagant bolts I have ever operated.

    The two stage trigger is a Model 27 type, pinned and held in place by the sear spring. It is smooth with no creep whatsoever. It breaks at about 4 lbs.

    The barrel is bright, sharp and pit free. I have only sighted this rifle in and did a couple of groups with surplus Czech and Hungarian light ball. This rifle consistently shot 3/4" groups and less at 100m. I'm curious how well it would do with some higher quality ammo.

    Needless to say, its the pride of my Finn collection. I hope some of our fellow members from Finland might be able to provide some information on what type of accessories were used with this rifle while in military service. Even a couple of pics while in service would be nice. I have a commercial adjustable palm support/sling swivel and bipod for use, but they are not original to the rifle.

    Hope you enjoy the pics.
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    A few more pictures:
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    And a few more:
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    That is SOOOOOOO cool, thank you for the pictures!!

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    Yes, great rifle and great presentation!
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    Do you know if that particular rifle was ever in Oregon?

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    Came from Finland directly to Canada. I don't think there are many of these rifles on this side of the Atlantic.
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    I must admit, this post does not have the content I thought it would from reading the title.

    Great pics of a unique rifle.

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    Kan I have hit?

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    Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

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    WOW ! Thats COOL !!! maybe I could build one of those from one of my butchered M27's ??
    Ahh .. another project ?

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    Elegant, functional and masterful. Beautiful doesn't begin to describe. Thank you for sharing!

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    Holy smokes! Too sweet!

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    Default What can you say about a rifle like that but ? ...

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    Very nice, thanks for the pic's!

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    Do you know why the rear sling attachment is on the same side as the bolt handle? There sure is nice workmanship on the whole thing.

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    Thanks for the nice comments. I knew when I first came across this rifle it would be as close as I would ever get to owning a Tkiv 85. The M28-66 and M28-76 are the direct lineage to the M85. I am amazed how the Finns can hone the accuracy of the Mosin Nagant to the ultimate level. Whether that is an M91 right up to the M39. The Russians had the right formula, but the Finns knew how to perfect it.

    Does anyone else possess one of these military competition rifles?

    (If anyone is interested in one of these rare rifles, I know where there is a M28-66 target rifle for sale. It is fitted with a Wetzler 4 x 36 scope and is also direct from the Finnish military.)
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    That is way too cool! My two favorite things mosins and target rifles.
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    If the rear sling attachment was on the left side of the butt, it would interfere with the correct placement of the cheek for a right handed shooter. The use of this set up (same component as on the M39) is very solid and won't get in the way.

    I've tried the M39 with the sling on the side of the butt stock and found that it got in my way while shooting. I keep the slings set up in the "infantry" position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rchmontreal View Post
    (If anyone is interested in one of these rare rifles, I know where there is a M28-66 target rifle for sale. It is fitted with a Wetzler 4 x 36 scope and is also direct from the Finnish military.)
    I'm interested but your email is turned off. Please email me at [email protected] and I'll get right back to you.

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    Very nice!.
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    preachere, e-mail sent.
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    I just new it! Bubba's relatives came from Finland. Only it looks like the better part of the family stayed over there.

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    OMG! GREAT!

    Please send it directly to me, as my 27-66 waits urgently for her sister .

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    The new world eagerly awaits your rifle's arrival, for family reunification purposes!

    Please post some pics, kh!
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    You understood me wrong, it was an invitation for YOURS .

    Here are some pics of my 27-66:
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    Beautiful rifle! It looks like the stock is made from walnut, is that correct? It has wonderful lines.

    Do you know who provided the diopter sights for these rifles? It seems there are a variety of sights being used. Were they commercial purchases or from the Finnish arsenal system?
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    Questions to both rch and KH:

    Do you shoot these often?
    If so, at what range(s)?
    How is the accuracy?
    Ammo used?
    Is the front diopter changable and if so, do you have other inserts?

    Wow to both for what is the ultimate MN bubba job!
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    In answer to your questions:

    1. I've only been to the range once with this rifle. Too many choices and not enough range time.

    2. 100 meters.

    3. 3/4" and less (I nearly fell off the bench rest at the range! Not the usual 4" Soviet 91/30 groups)

    4. Czech and Hungarian surplus light ball.

    5. The rear aperture disc and front diopter are both removable, but no spares were provided. There are no manufacturer's marks on the metric sights, only the arsenal "tower".
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    How many places on Earth could these two target Mosins be seen at the same time!? The Mosin gods (in this case, rchmontreal & kh!) do bless us all here today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radom View Post
    How many places on Earth could these two target Mosins be seen at the same time!? The Mosin gods (in this case, rchmontreal & kh!) do bless us all here today!
    Amen, Brother! We are blessed to have members with such nice things and willing to share them (at least in pictures) with us.
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    Thank you for posting the pics!!!! I'm looking for a run-of-the-mill 91/30 with "0" collectors value to do almost the same thing to. My idea was to do exactly what the Depot did to the bolt and right/top side of the receiver in order to make room for a receiver sight. (Function above form) had NO idea that it had already been done! Now I have an example to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyquestor View Post
    Questions to both rch and KH:

    Do you shoot these often?
    If so, at what range(s)?
    How is the accuracy?
    Ammo used?
    Is the front diopter changable and if so, do you have other inserts?

    Wow to both for what is the ultimate MN bubba job!
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    I only shot it twice at 100 and 200 meters. With match ammo even I can hit the head of a nail.

    Yes, the front diopter is changable, but I have no other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rchmontreal View Post
    Beautiful rifle! It looks like the stock is made from walnut, is that correct? It has wonderful lines.

    Do you know who provided the diopter sights for these rifles? It seems there are a variety of sights being used. Were they commercial purchases or from the Finnish arsenal system?
    rchmontreal

    Yes,it seems the stock is made from walnut.

    Sorry, I do not know who provided the sights. Perhaps one of our Finnish members can add something here? Palokangas mentiones those rifles in a short chapter of his books, but if I remember right the maker of the sights is not mentioned.

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    Outstanding. I guess they picked up more than just SIG barrels, and barrel sleeving from the Swiss. Notice the ringed cocking piece, similar to the Schmidt Rubin series of rifles. As both use rotating the cocking piece to put the rifle on safe, it sure would make the MN safety much easier to grip and use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kh View Post
    Perhaps one of our Finnish members can add something here? Palokangas mentiones those rifles in a short chapter of his books, but if I remember right the maker of the sights is not mentioned.
    Palokangas states that the diopter sight for the M/28-57, M/27-66 and M/28-76 are identical to those on the Suomen Leijona .22lr competition rifle, i.e. the Valmet Diopter M/57.

    This means that there are/have been changable inserts available.

    Competition shooters being what they are there have been numerous unofficial adaptions of diopter sights for the Finnish Mosins. My own set, bought a couple of years ago, are unmarked, The front diopter, a Leijona clone, has changeable inserts and the rear diopter, a home-smithed creation, hasn't.




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    Bokmal

    my limited knowledge of the English language: Did I understand right, that Valmet made the diopters?

    Thank you and regards
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    Herzlichen Dank!
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    Looks like an accurate gun nice!
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    Cool Very Cool!

    This is EXACTLY why I've become addicted to target rifles.
    Thanks for the great pics!
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    I fear your addiction will not hurt you too much, as there are not many MN target rifles around .

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    I'll never stop feeding this monkey!

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    but I like ALL the target rifles-like the CG-63,Shultz and Larsen M58,and M69,the Enfield Envoy,and the Norwegian M67.
    I'm even planning on building one on an old mauser receiver[off of a junk rifle] in 30-06.
    Most of these I know I'll never have[or be able to afford],but it never hurts to dream of owning one!

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    I bid on these last year and was stunned at how much the Finnish depots wanted for the lot of rifles. They were MUCH higher than I would have thought. These are going to show up in the USA (in fact some here now) but they are not going to be cheap. They are interesting arms if you are into marksmanship type rifles. They are well made and great shooters. They are not common but again we will see some here soon - and in some numbers as well.

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