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    Default Production date for Ishapore No1MkIII*

    My uncle acquired an Ishapore No1MkIII* a number of years ago that has a date of 1980. "India's Enfields" states an end of production for .303 Enfields in the mid 70s. I do not have photos at this point, but will in the next few days. Did production run into the 80s? Has anyone else run across a date as late as this?
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    Ishapore No.1 mk3*s have turned up dated as late as 1988.
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    Chalked to show weak stampings:


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPH712 View Post
    My uncle acquired an Ishapore No1MkIII* a number of years ago that has a date of 1980. "India's Enfields" states an end of production for .303 Enfields in the mid 70s. I do not have photos at this point, but will in the next few days. Did production run into the 80s? Has anyone else run across a date as late as this?

    Actually what is interesting to me about this is not that it is late but that it is EARLY (in the 80s)
    My understanding was that production of the 7.62mm 2A/A1 lasted from 1964-1969 (anyone seen a 69 or later 2A/A1?), then there was a short run of .303 rifles 1970-1974? (I have never seen a 75-80 until now anyone have pics?)
    and then a final run (assembled from stocks of parts?) from 1985-1988 I have not seen one later than 1988 but until now I had not heard of one between 1974-1985 either. I would love to see pics.

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    That thought had occurred to me as well. Decided to wait for the photos. Aside from the possible 1980, I haven't seen an FR 80 either.

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    1986


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    this is killer. it is amazing what is out there, until some one brings it up! i think it is fascinating.

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    I have 1970,71,72,86,87,88.

    I have seen an '85 but missed it at auction, same with a 1969 7.62mm which I would really like to find.

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    One may presume that they still have the machinery? How good would it be if they arced it up again and resumed production for a couple of years.

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    It turns out that he has not just the one Ishapore, but a phone conversation revealed that he has 4X Ishapore No1MkIII* and at least 1 2A1. I have asked him to pull them from the safe so that I can take a few photos. I will be at his house tomorrow and hope he has extricated them.

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    Yeah You need to keep an eye on them...they reproduce

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    I'm guessing some of the machinery is still in use. Click on "315 Sporting Rifle" under Civil Weapons.

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    Okay, after talking with my uncle he said it is a 1981, but after closers evaluation the rifle is a 1987 production. It is all matching, barrel, bolt, bayonet lug, stock. Interesting it looks to have a stock reinforcing bolt, but shows Zero evidence of ever having been wire wrapped. Still has to dig out the other 4 Indian rifles.



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    That is the "Ishapore SCREW" - very common (all my 80s rifles have it also) almost universally installed on post WWII Indian rifles to prevent splitting - while they serve the same purpose the bolts used on the GF rifles are significantly larger and have hex heads on both nut and bolt.
    Looks to be a nice late(final?) production run example, agree - clearly 1987. Which is in one respect good (as it fits with what I thought I knew) and in one respect disappointing as I was hoping there was a broader spread of late production.
    Ah well -- still looking for that 1969 2A/A1!

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